imported_doug
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Those of you who've known me for a bit know that:
a) I don't believe anything "for sure" until I test it myself, or I until I have come to know the source well enough to know they're as rigorous as me. I don't mean to offend anyone, but those sources are few and far between. There are always LOTS of opinions here (and anywhere else for that matter), but very few people who apply a true scientific discipline to product tests. Looking at a car one day with one thing on it, and then looking on a different day with something else just doesn't count. Your memory gets clouded, the lighting conditions are different, etc.
b) I actually LIKE finding stuff out and testing it - like the zaino test I published way back when. Its not that I have to have a perfect looking finish - the only way to have that is to not drive the car, which goes against every bone in my body. I just have this.... compulsion.
c) I'm not too proud to mind learning I was wrong - and if I do I'm perfectly happy to eat crow and share my new knowledge here.
d) I have been a supporter of the Calif. Car Duster - seems to work without scratching, provided it is used sensibly. This has, in fact, been the general consensus of the board.
However today I brought my black Porsche home pretty dusty. I decided to make darn sure this thing doesn't scratch. I closed the garage and turned on my "obsession lights" - the dual-head, 1000w halogen lights on a tripod like you can buy at the hardware stores. Believe me - these lights keep no secrets, hide no dirty laundry, sweep nothing under the rug, take no prisoners, etc. :nono
For my "subject area" I used the spoiler on the Porsche. This is a beautiful, highly visible, nearly flat surface that I love to keep as perfect as possible - and it is small - I figure if I ever rub all the clear off it I can have it re-sprayed for less than anywhere else on the car.
I "dusted" half of the spoiler from the center to the edge (across its length, which is to say across the width of the car.) To my horror when the dust was gone, I could see lots of swirls. (These are absolutely and positively 100% invisible in natural light. ) The swirls ran in the same direction I had dusted - however I knew this is also the direction in which I've done all my rubbing when I QD, wax, buff, etc. So - did I just introduce them, or were they there earlier?
SO - I proceeded to dust the other half across its short dimension - i.e., front to back. I could see the same amount of swirls, but only in the direction 90 degrees to the direction I just dusted. Believe me, if the Duster had introduced any scratches here, they would have shown up right now. Just to be sure, I did several other areas of the car, dusting at 90 degrees to my normal rub direction - and I didn't witness a single scratch from the duster.
I proceeded to detail-spray and MF-buff , and I DID see a few places where I introduced a new scratch from this process. This demonstrates a) just how sensitive this lighting method is and b) the Duster did not remove 100% of the schmutz on the car - you shouldn't expect it to. It had to be remaining dust that caused the new scratches. Dust that has adhered because it absorbed moisture out of the air is not going to come off with the Duster - it will only come off with detail spray or a proper wash.
I am now 100% confident that the Duster is a good way to get almost all of the dust off of your car, before you actually go about "rubbing" it with anything else.
Good time to re-state the (hopefully obvious) caveats:
1) Use only the weight of the bristles - support the weight of the wood. On vertical surfaces, "simulate" this same pressure. It takes 2-3 passes over an area to get the dust that is going to come off at all, off.
2) Don't expect miracles - dust WILL adhere once it absorbs moisture. This is not a substitute for a wash if you let the car go too long.
3) it is better to dust VERY FREQUENTLY so the dust does NOT adhere. On my car, that means after EVERY outing.
4) A dirty-looking duster is still effective. In fact, just like they tell you it will, it seems to work better. When it is new, there is excess paraffin on the fiber tips and this CAN leave some waxy streaks on the car. My duster looks plenty dirty.
More experience - I started using the duster more and more - and concluded it made "dry washing" a viable alternative to wet shoes! Check out this thread
a) I don't believe anything "for sure" until I test it myself, or I until I have come to know the source well enough to know they're as rigorous as me. I don't mean to offend anyone, but those sources are few and far between. There are always LOTS of opinions here (and anywhere else for that matter), but very few people who apply a true scientific discipline to product tests. Looking at a car one day with one thing on it, and then looking on a different day with something else just doesn't count. Your memory gets clouded, the lighting conditions are different, etc.
b) I actually LIKE finding stuff out and testing it - like the zaino test I published way back when. Its not that I have to have a perfect looking finish - the only way to have that is to not drive the car, which goes against every bone in my body. I just have this.... compulsion.

c) I'm not too proud to mind learning I was wrong - and if I do I'm perfectly happy to eat crow and share my new knowledge here.
d) I have been a supporter of the Calif. Car Duster - seems to work without scratching, provided it is used sensibly. This has, in fact, been the general consensus of the board.
However today I brought my black Porsche home pretty dusty. I decided to make darn sure this thing doesn't scratch. I closed the garage and turned on my "obsession lights" - the dual-head, 1000w halogen lights on a tripod like you can buy at the hardware stores. Believe me - these lights keep no secrets, hide no dirty laundry, sweep nothing under the rug, take no prisoners, etc. :nono
For my "subject area" I used the spoiler on the Porsche. This is a beautiful, highly visible, nearly flat surface that I love to keep as perfect as possible - and it is small - I figure if I ever rub all the clear off it I can have it re-sprayed for less than anywhere else on the car.
I "dusted" half of the spoiler from the center to the edge (across its length, which is to say across the width of the car.) To my horror when the dust was gone, I could see lots of swirls. (These are absolutely and positively 100% invisible in natural light. ) The swirls ran in the same direction I had dusted - however I knew this is also the direction in which I've done all my rubbing when I QD, wax, buff, etc. So - did I just introduce them, or were they there earlier?
SO - I proceeded to dust the other half across its short dimension - i.e., front to back. I could see the same amount of swirls, but only in the direction 90 degrees to the direction I just dusted. Believe me, if the Duster had introduced any scratches here, they would have shown up right now. Just to be sure, I did several other areas of the car, dusting at 90 degrees to my normal rub direction - and I didn't witness a single scratch from the duster.
I proceeded to detail-spray and MF-buff , and I DID see a few places where I introduced a new scratch from this process. This demonstrates a) just how sensitive this lighting method is and b) the Duster did not remove 100% of the schmutz on the car - you shouldn't expect it to. It had to be remaining dust that caused the new scratches. Dust that has adhered because it absorbed moisture out of the air is not going to come off with the Duster - it will only come off with detail spray or a proper wash.
I am now 100% confident that the Duster is a good way to get almost all of the dust off of your car, before you actually go about "rubbing" it with anything else.
Good time to re-state the (hopefully obvious) caveats:
1) Use only the weight of the bristles - support the weight of the wood. On vertical surfaces, "simulate" this same pressure. It takes 2-3 passes over an area to get the dust that is going to come off at all, off.
2) Don't expect miracles - dust WILL adhere once it absorbs moisture. This is not a substitute for a wash if you let the car go too long.
3) it is better to dust VERY FREQUENTLY so the dust does NOT adhere. On my car, that means after EVERY outing.
4) A dirty-looking duster is still effective. In fact, just like they tell you it will, it seems to work better. When it is new, there is excess paraffin on the fiber tips and this CAN leave some waxy streaks on the car. My duster looks plenty dirty.
More experience - I started using the duster more and more - and concluded it made "dry washing" a viable alternative to wet shoes! Check out this thread