BLACKFIRE evaluations

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waynejitsu said:
LOL! and you are doing what??? LOL!!!

good advise:)

yes, nu finish messed the paint up, VERY abrasive! whether they changed the formula over the years, i do not know(nor do i care, too many synthetic products to pick from now), however, it was almost as abrasive as some compounds i have used in the past, and MORE abrasive than some:bounce:sosad
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First, you should learn how to spell and how to use proper English. Seccond, you really don't need to be so up-tight... it just ruins the image of the forum, and makes it a lot less informative and interesting.



Don't get me wrong... I have no hard feelings against you. I just think you were wrong to jump at stang so quickly, for stating an opinion. Please take your trash talk elsewhere.



:up



Thanks
 
Hey, we haven't had these, uhh, "exciting" topics for a while. ;)





I only have 2 topic-related questions:



1.) Before, geekysteve used both Blackfire Polish and Protectant to polish off the embedded brake dust on the wheels of his friend's 7-series. So does the "revised" formula not contain these abrasives, or did CMA just "adjust the balance of the polymers being used." I'm confused...



However, I'm happy to report that I did the exact same procedure using the "new" Blackfire on another part of the same CD and couldn't find any marring at all. The difference could actually be "felt" because when I was applying the "original" BF, it felt like the applicator was grinding into the CD, similar to the way it feels when applying an SMR to your paint.
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2.) Can anyone confirm if the samples Terry sent out (which fellow Autopians raved about) is the same as what can be purchased now online?



Thanks!
 
BW said:
Hey, we haven't had these, uhh, "exciting" topics for a while. ;)





I only have 2 topic-related questions:



1.) Before, geekysteve used both Blackfire Polish and Protectant to polish off the embedded brake dust on the wheels of his friend's 7-series. So does the "revised" formula not contain these abrasives, or did CMA just "adjust the balance of the polymers being used." I'm confused...







2.) Can anyone confirm if the samples Terry sent out (which fellow Autopians raved about) is the same as what can be purchased now online?



Thanks!
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From What I Understood, The BF Being Sold Now Was The New Formulation.

I Really Like The New BF, CD Testing Didnt Show Marring That Was Uncharacteristic Of The Other Sealents I Tested.

I Did Have Some Small Steraking Issues, But Otherwise, It Worked Extremely Well.
 
thevolvoguy said:
First, you should learn how to spell and how to use proper English. Seccond, you really don't need to be so up-tight... it just ruins the image of the forum, and makes it a lot less informative and interesting.



"Seccond" has one c



Don't get me wrong... I have no hard feelings against you. I just think you were wrong to jump at stang so quickly, for stating an opinion. Please take your trash talk elsewhere.



please look who started the "trash", it was not me.

like i said, i was not trying to make anyone "mad", but it sure did happen.

this is not the place for such nonsence, i did not realize there would be such an uproar asking questions and giving advise. i NEVER had this problem in other forums. i thought this forum would be a little more inviting and friendly to newcomers, but obviously i do not fit in the "click" some have in here...

i believe this thread needs to end to keep this from keeping on the road it has taken. it is no longer informative, only seems to have turned into a..., well, you know what it has turned into.

when people start picking out misspellings and such, what is the point???



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thanks...
 
BW,

I did my car today with Blackfire that I received for X-Mas(assume it is the new formula) and it did not feel as if there was any abrasives in it.

I will do a CD test tomorrow if one has not been done by anyone else by that time.
 
Sorry Bolton... I guess I over reacted. :sosad



Now, here is what I was going to post earlier.



I found the new Blackfire to be extremely close in most categories... to the old formula. The only differences I can confirm are the scent (obviously) and the ease of use. The product goes on easily, but is a little tough to buff and leave the paint w/o streaks at the same time.



The longevity is longer... it has lasted about 3 months on the 850, that's through winter/storm season in Texas... being parked outside 1/2 the time. The car still beads well, but it is clearly lessening.



I love Blackfire, and whichever formula CMA chooses to use... I will still buy it.
 
"Can't we all just get along?"

:)



BW - I called CMA last week right before ordering BF2 and they said, yes, all current inventory is the new formula.



Will try in next day or two...
 
BW said:
Hey, we haven't had these, uhh, "exciting" topics for a while. ;)





I only have 2 topic-related questions:



1.) Before, geekysteve used both Blackfire Polish and Protectant to polish off the embedded brake dust on the wheels of his friend's 7-series. So does the "revised" formula not contain these abrasives, or did CMA just "adjust the balance of the polymers being used." I'm confused...
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I believe you will find Geekysteve only used the polish to do this. And it the polish does claim to have some cleaning power, so this isn't really an indictment of Blackfire as being a deceptive product.



BW said:
2.) Can anyone confirm if the samples Terry sent out (which fellow Autopians raved about) is the same as what can be purchased now online?



Thanks!
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Terry has confirmed this numerous times. They got rid of the old formula back when they sent out the samples. So if you get it from CMA, it will be the new stuff.



As far as abrasives causing swirls, certainly if something is abrasive enough it can cause them. But smaller abrasives are actually used to remove swirls. It does sound like perhaps someone is having an application or toweling problem because even products as strong and abrasive as DACP won't cause swirls (in fact, they are quite useful in removing them). I don't imagine a protectant could be too abrasive or I wouldn't think it could leave much protection behind...
 
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