Black car questions?
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DETAILKING
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It's impossible to have a swirl free black daily driver. It's the hardest color to own. It shows water spots after a wash the most, and dust. If you have the time and patience to maintain it, go for it, if now, skip it if driving a clean and shiny car is important to you. When done right, nothing shines like a black car!
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my question is how DK keeps attaching the same image 
. Over at the member pics you can see my ML320 after 3 coats of Klasse SG. I prefer klasse on black because it makes the paint look darker and deeper. You should see my neighbor's 2001 black accord, he uses nu finish and talk about depth... of swirl marks that is 
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. Over at the member pics you can see my ML320 after 3 coats of Klasse SG. I prefer klasse on black because it makes the paint look darker and deeper. You should see my neighbor's 2001 black accord, he uses nu finish and talk about depth... of swirl marks that is .Black cars definately require quite some time and patience if you do decide to own one. They are notorious for showing scratches, swirls, road grime, and just about anything else you can imagine affecting a daily driven vehicle. If I had known about Autopia before I purchased my current black vehicle for daily driving, then I would have gone with a silver car. As DK mentioned, nothing looks better than a black car that has been freshly detailed! The only downside though is the upkeep! 
imported_Intermezzo
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JM19, I partially agree with you. I have both a silver and a black car and the silver is a breeze to maintain, but doing a perfect detail on black is just so much more rewarding...to me at least. 
Cork, my wife drives her black car 50+ miles a day, parks it outside while at work and smokes cigarettes while driving. Hehe, it definitely has a few swirls here and there, but it isn't all that bad. I sealed the car when it was pretty new and it's pretty much had several layers of protectant for most of it's life.
Cork, my wife drives her black car 50+ miles a day, parks it outside while at work and smokes cigarettes while driving. Hehe, it definitely has a few swirls here and there, but it isn't all that bad. I sealed the car when it was pretty new and it's pretty much had several layers of protectant for most of it's life.
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Intermezzo330I [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>JM19, I partially agree with you. I have both a silver and a black car and the silver is a breeze to maintain, but doing a perfect detail on black is just so much more rewarding...to me at least. [/b]</blockquote>
Intermezzo, you must have misunderstood me. I was saying that I too enjoy detailing a black car also, as the end results are well worth it. By upkeep I meant keeping it scratch and swirl free. Not an easy task!
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Intermezzo330I [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>JM19, I partially agree with you. I have both a silver and a black car and the silver is a breeze to maintain, but doing a perfect detail on black is just so much more rewarding...to me at least. [/b]</blockquote>
Intermezzo, you must have misunderstood me. I was saying that I too enjoy detailing a black car also, as the end results are well worth it. By upkeep I meant keeping it scratch and swirl free. Not an easy task!
imported_bigltc
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DETAILKING [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>It's impossible to have a swirl free black daily driver. It's the hardest color to own. It shows water spots after a wash the most, and dust. If you have the time and patience to maintain it, go for it, if now, skip it if driving a clean and shiny car is important to you. When done right, nothing shines like a black car! [/b]</blockquote>
Holy moly!!! My gosh!!! The reflection is awesome!!!
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by DETAILKING [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>It's impossible to have a swirl free black daily driver. It's the hardest color to own. It shows water spots after a wash the most, and dust. If you have the time and patience to maintain it, go for it, if now, skip it if driving a clean and shiny car is important to you. When done right, nothing shines like a black car! [/b]</blockquote>
Holy moly!!! My gosh!!!
The reflection is awesome!!!imported_Intermezzo
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by JM19 [/i]
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Intermezzo, you must have misunderstood me. I was saying that I too enjoy detailing a black car also, as the end results are well worth it. By upkeep I meant keeping it scratch and swirl free. Not an easy task! [/b]</blockquote>
Oh, OK. Scratch that sentence then.
I was referring to the part where you said you'd get a silver car instead of a black car had you found Autopia sooner. For me, now that I've found Autopia, black will always be my first choice. :bounce
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by JM19 [/i]
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Intermezzo, you must have misunderstood me. I was saying that I too enjoy detailing a black car also, as the end results are well worth it. By upkeep I meant keeping it scratch and swirl free. Not an easy task!
[/b]</blockquote>Oh, OK. Scratch that sentence then.
I was referring to the part where you said you'd get a silver car instead of a black car had you found Autopia sooner. For me, now that I've found Autopia, black will always be my first choice. :bounce
I think that the best thing that you can do for a black car is to start with some intensive prep work. Use clay, paint cleaner or both. Then put multiple layers of protection to create a nice thick sacrificial layer exposed to the elements. With a daily driver I'd lean towards using a quality polymer sealant like Klasse. I'd put at least 3 layers of SG on but 6 would be better.
imported_doug
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If ever there was an example of a love/hate relationship, a black car is it. As said above - nothing looks better clean; nothing shows dirt sooner. If your red car is a non-metallic red, you already know a lot more than most about what it takes to keep it looking pretty. And <strong class='bbc'>a black car is the best teacher[/b] about all things detail-related. I can't tell you how much I have learned about what I thought already knew!
In the end - it is a personal decision.
In the end - it is a personal decision.
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Don2000* [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Hey Mike, what products do you use on your Mustang. The black looks pretty nice on that pic. [/b]</blockquote>
I use all Mothers products, and I use Mothers Pure Carnauba wax on it.
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<strong class='bbc'>Hey Mike, what products do you use on your Mustang. The black looks pretty nice on that pic. [/b]</blockquote>
I use all Mothers products, and I use Mothers Pure Carnauba wax on it.
You can tell that you have a carnauba wax on that car. It looks great! The black looks very dark, shiny and vibrant. Now that's the way a car is supposed to shine.(My personal opinion of course.) I wouldn't change your routine too much at all. It is definitely working out wonderfully buddy. Laters
imported_Intermezzo
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by carguy [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>If ever there was an example of a love/hate relationship, a black car is it. As said above - nothing looks better clean; nothing shows dirt sooner. If your red car is a non-metallic red, you already know a lot more than most about what it takes to keep it looking pretty. And <strong class='bbc'>a black car is the best teacher[/b] about all things detail-related. I can't tell you how much I have learned about what I thought already knew!
In the end - it is a personal decision.[/b]</blockquote>
Greg,
Very well put! I agree 100%. I would add that owning a black car has also been a somewhat humbling experience.
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by carguy [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>If ever there was an example of a love/hate relationship, a black car is it. As said above - nothing looks better clean; nothing shows dirt sooner. If your red car is a non-metallic red, you already know a lot more than most about what it takes to keep it looking pretty. And <strong class='bbc'>a black car is the best teacher[/b] about all things detail-related. I can't tell you how much I have learned about what I thought already knew!
In the end - it is a personal decision.[/b]</blockquote>
Greg,
Very well put! I agree 100%. I would add that owning a black car has also been a somewhat humbling experience.
My first car was a black metallic 1994 Honda Civic EX cpe, and that was my last black car. Black cars are probably the best looking cars but for me it was very painful because of how it showed imperfections a mile away. What was the worst no not the extra heat it attracted in the summer but it was when you spent a couple hours giving it a good wash and pulling it in the garage and seeing it looked dirty already when you had just finish washing it I will never forget the time I picked up my Civic, I saw a very small scratch on the hood and the sales mananger had said dont worry the dealership owner has a bodyshop down the street and we will take care of it. Well when I got there the guy had told me wow nice car but your first and biggest mistake was buying a black car,boy was he right i felt like i was fighting a battle i could not win for the next three years.
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Don2000* [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>You can tell that you have a carnauba wax on that car. It looks great! The black looks very dark, shiny and vibrant. Now that's the way a car is supposed to shine.(My personal opinion of course.) I wouldn't change your routine too much at all. It is definitely working out wonderfully buddy. Laters [/b]</blockquote>
Thank You
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Don2000* [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>You can tell that you have a carnauba wax on that car. It looks great! The black looks very dark, shiny and vibrant. Now that's the way a car is supposed to shine.(My personal opinion of course.) I wouldn't change your routine too much at all. It is definitely working out wonderfully buddy. Laters [/b]</blockquote>
Thank You
Chuckmotor
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Question for Carguy: what do you use on your Porsche in that picture? You really like Gold Class, right? If it was Gold Class that you used, how many layers was on that, and how often do you apply it?
By the way, it looks super!
By the way, it looks super!
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yea i have the same question for carguy. I think he uses souveran but not sure...