big date coming up: Black 06 Porsche Cayman

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tssdetailing

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Hello everyone, at my last gig a guy with a black 06 porsche cayman approached me and asked to have the whole car buffed. I feel like a freshman being asked out by a senior, a hot one too...my palms are all sweaty n' stuff now! Anyway, he mentioned something about the 06's have a different clear coat on them vs previous years. What does that mean? The car also has a clearbra on the hood, tail, mirrors and rear fenders (which are gunked with wax around the outlines from previous hacks) will that come out with claybar or should i use a toothbrush? Finally he'd like it waxed not sealed-any recomendations? I was thinking black fire wet diamond.



Cliffs Notes:

What's so special about 06 Porsche clearcoat?

Can you buff a clearbra?

How do you remove wax build up around a clearbra?

What wax would you recommend?
 
No idea about the '06 clear, but IIRC Porsche clear is currently softer than it used to be.



Opinions seem to vary about polishing PPF :nixweiss Don't mess up the edges (Barry Theal recently did a car with PPF; he did polish it but he taped the edges) and be careful about polish build-up along them.



I sure wouldn't touch it with a toothbrush...with the *possible* exception a soft, soaked-until-even-softer, natural-bristle one. I'd give it a decontamination wash instead, and then clay it if necessary. Watch you don't put new residue back in those places when you wax; apply the wax in a "moving off the edge of the film rather than moving towards/up-against it" motion.



I'd wax it with Collinite. It'll give a long-lasting, "wow, that's really *waxed*" impression and will look fine if you do the prep OK.



Somebody here will probably :nono you about doing a car that you don't feel 100% confident about doing....
 
Porsche clear is a dream to polish. If you ever feel uncomfortable polishing the car, just go to a dual action polisher. On soft black Porsche clear you should usually be able to achieve 95% correction without the use of a rotary. Best of luck.





John
 
JohnKleven said:
Porsche clear is a dream to polish. If you ever feel uncomfortable polishing the car, just go to a dual action polisher. On soft black Porsche clear you should usually be able to achieve 95% correction without the use of a rotary. Best of luck.





John
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Wonderful. I'm not a "rotary guy" so that's good to hear.



Leadfootluke said:
As far as I know, Blackfire Wet Diamond would be considered a sealant, just to point that out.
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I found that to be the case as I read their marketing literature after making the post
 
I've polished my 3M film as well as several others with out any issues. I also tape off the edges like Accumulator suggested and just don't get too aggressive with them. I tend to use a little more polish to keep it "wet" and bump the speed down a notch.



Other than that I've found Porsche to be very soft and easy to correct with the exception of the bumper covers.
 
Huh...all the talk about "soft Porsche clear" from experienced people :think:



The clear on my 928s (after they *started* clearcoating them ;) ) and my '90 Carerra 4 weren't what I'd call "soft" by a long shot. When did they start using the softer stuff?
 
maybe that's what the owner meant when he told me "the Porsche purists said the clear coats on 06+ is different than previous years." That's all he told me was "it's differernt than previous years" not "soft, hard" just "different" and it was something he caught while on a forum. He said he just likes the car for the car, not for it being part of a community so he didn't read much into it.
 
Accumulator said:
Huh...all the talk about "soft Porsche clear" from experienced people :think:



The clear on my 928s (after they *started* clearcoating them ;) ) and my '90 Carerra 4 weren't what I'd call "soft" by a long shot. When did they start using the softer stuff?
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Well my Porsche portfolio is limited to two Boxsters and then a few older 911's, 928's & 944's that were done long before I used or understood the terms hard and soft clear! :D



I felt it was similar to that of Honda paint. :nixweiss
 
did one 997 with a soft clear, and a 997 with a harder clear...both same year cars, both jet black



just did a basalt black cayenne and it was soft



working a 1957 speedster today and tomorrow and I have already gone the PFW and 105 route (removed almost everything in one pass) and orange 105 route (using PC to remove the rotary holograms) on it - but its been repainted as its cleared...LOL its looking a TON better
 
So far the advice all sounds good to me...now about those waxes. I would lay down a layer or two of Souveran or Supernatural. If you want to stick to something around the price of BFWD which you had originally been considering, I might go with Natty's Paste or P21S Concours Carnauba Wax.



BTW- Got your message but my battery is dead....I'll ring you up later today.
 
I called the local porsche dealer and inquired about the 06 clear. he said that on Black and White 06 cars they only use 2 coats of clear coat. That something about the chemical compund prevents them from adding more than that.
 
tssdetailing said:
I called the local porsche dealer and inquired about the 06 clear. he said that on Black and White 06 cars they only use 2 coats of clear coat. That something about the chemical compund prevents them from adding more than that.
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Hmmm, never heard that, but that doesn't mean it's not the case. FWIW, here are some before and afters of my '06 Black Carrera S. IMHO, the clear is soft and mars easily.



For correction I used a white LC pad and Menz 106FA via Metabo rotary.



I also have a clear bra on the front bumper area only. I don't do anything more aggressive than 106FA on it via a white pad. I usually top the clear bra with something like Werkstat.



I find the "bumper" wrap arounds are a bit more finicky, perhaps due to the flex agent in the paint? :nixweiss



HTH



Rear bumper area before

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Rear bumper area after

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Driver side door before

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Driver side door after

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