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tooklean

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its been raining all day in my town as I was coming home from work I found myself checking peoples cars for beading which indicates some level of protection from wax or sealent correct? I must have seen 50 newer cars with no beading. Don't people care about hard earned money spent on nice cars. Why not get them protected?
 
Kim, I see your from Meadville. I went to college in Edinboro. I don't know how old you are but in my college years I dated a couple of girls from your way patty and Kendra. Their last names escape me but they were terrific young ladies.
 
I have two daughters and their names are Patty and Kendra ...
Naw, Just kidding ... It sure is a small world
BTW I am 50 year old and have lived here all my life ... don't know why but I have :)
 
tooklean said:
its been raining all day in my town as I was coming home from work I found myself checking peoples cars for beading which indicates some level of protection from wax or sealent correct? I must have seen 50 newer cars with no beading. Don't people care about hard earned money spent on nice cars. Why not get them protected?
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Beading is not always an indicator of a car having protection or being well maintained. Some products are meant to sheet and not bead, and there could be a number of other reasons including a fine layer of polutants or sap on a finish that would prevent any product from beading until it was cleaned or washed. Beading is or isn't going to occur depending on the surface tension of the water on the finish.
 
Poorboy thanks for the insight !! Kim How much work to you get up their in the snow belt. I know down here in Beaver Falls it very slow.
 
I only detail my personal cars and some for friends. I have thought about starting a business, but there are already three or four in the area. Their rates are pretty low and their work isn't that good. I don't think Meadville would support what I would want to produce at the price I would want to charge. For what its worth, I had a successful Tool and Die/Custom Stamping Business that I sold in 1999, So I am basically retired until I find something that grabs my interest.
Poorboy is right in his post ... Many cars are in fact protected, they just don't show it.
 
I could wax my fiance's car an two days later it won't bead. She works near a Ford plant that covers the cars with this fallout pollution crap....At least that is where they tell her it is coming from, there are other factories in the area as well. Anyway, the point is I agree with Steve. LOL
 
May I ask, what waxes produce the sheating affects? I agree with Steve but I don't know what I can do to achieve the sheating that a future client might want.

Should I post this in the Professional Corner?

Thanx

Daniel
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Holyghostfilled said:
May I ask, what waxes produce the sheating affects? I agree with Steve but I don't know what I can do to achieve the sheating that a future client might want.

Should I post this in the Professional Corner?

Thanx

Daniel
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You probably would get more and better responses by posting a new thread;)

Probably in Main Street forum:D
 
Poorboy said:
Beading is not always an indicator of a car having protection or being well maintained. Some products are meant to sheet and not bead, and there could be a number of other reasons including a fine layer of polutants or sap on a finish that would prevent any product from beading until it was cleaned or washed. Beading is or isn't going to occur depending on the surface tension of the water on the finish.
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I've heard you and others say that, but what else can you use as a gauge? Beading IS a definite gauge of protection. If it wasn't, most people wouldn't care, and people wouldn't develop products that continually bead.
 
Most products will bead intially because you are leaving a smooth slick surface...I don't know too many people that would throw a coat of wax over a dirty rough car , thus the use of car washes, clays, swirl removers , polishes, and compounds to clean and prepare a surface. New cars are relatively smooth and sometimes a wash will prepare it enough for a quick AIO product that dealers or their detailers use.
The better the surface is prepared , the better the beading will be. For many years when i was cleaning my cars on a daily basis, I only polished my cars, like many of the Street Rodders I dealt with...no wax ..no sealants..nothing ....my paint always shined and always beaded.
Now if you do use a wax or a sealant, and especially a wax, beading will vary by the heat and cold, it will vary upon how dirty the car is, reducing surface tension, and also as the oils in the carnauba or other types of waxes diminishes.
Sealants on the other hand will usually either bead, or sheet after beading. They are more slick by nature if applied and cured properly, but they will also be effected by surface dirt and contaminates in the air.
Now to your point, if you keep your car immaculate and highly waxed, and the car is clean and the beading during an average rain is not the same as it was right after waxing, yes you are seeing the diminishing strength of the wax or sealant.
 
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