bad paint damage pics

[mnbv]

Well, I have no idea how this happened, but the 2 pictures speak for itself. I call it "etching on the gas tank"

The car has a salvage title because of this one below. The car was in a minor fender bender and the guy who I bought it from owns a body shop. He actually was going to keep the car but he needed a 4 door (it's a coupe) because of kids. he lives right down the street, what should I ask him about this? The left headlight was replaced, the left fender repainted and the part of the hood repainted. There is orange peel on the hood but not on the fender part. The fender part is not as smooth as the stock paint, same as the hood. The paint color is ever so slightly brighter on the fender, but I can tell in person at least.

I don't know what happened here, look where the bumper meets the body panel, it is chiped away it seemes.

This is my doing, I removed an ugly sticker that went across each side of the car using goo gone. This is the only area that has this effect. My right frount fender was repainted and for some reason the "goo" was harder to get off in that area.

This is probably the worst damage. I don't know how it happened eather.

Here, there is some kind of plastic or somthing on the glass. I really don't know what it is, it is rough to the touch. It was hard to get it in a picture, but it is to the upper left of the white/red bike.

I also have scraches in one little section on the roof of the car, there is one that is white and I can feel with my nail, the rest around it are less severe.



I was wondering what you guys thought I should try for each of the problems. The front bumper area I was thinking I could wetsand and snip off that wire and sand it down or somthing. I'll take any more pictures if requested to get a better diagoisis.

 

[mnbv]

In the second picture of the gouge in the rear left bumper, you can see the paint fading away or somthing? Probably needs a good wet sanding. Take a look. Another imperfection is in the interior carpets. Here is a sample, all sections basically look the same, I can post pictures of all the sections if neeed.

I was thinking 303 for carpets and 303 fabric protectant.

 

[stilez]

Gas Tank - Looks like a scratch that was touched up and now the touch up paint is coming off...



3rd pic - Looks terrible...I would just repaint it.



The rear bumper is a repaint chipping away or someone burned it with a rotary buffer





Goo-Gone residue will polish out



Now that I think of it, you should just repaint the whole rear bumper since there is a decent amount of unfixable damage on it.



Glass will polish out with glass or chrome polish



Carpets...Try pre-treating with some carpet spot remover and using then using your favorite carpet shampoo.





Hope my insight helps...Good Luck.

 

[Prometheus]

good old woolite and water mix (5 parts water to 1 part woolite) works really well on dirt. Pretty much soak the carpets (not soak, but get really damp) let it sit for awhile, then get a brush or a terry towel and agitate it. I then usually use the shop vac and suck it all out. Works really well on dirt. I've never tried the 303 carpet cleaner, so no comments on that

 

[mnbv]

Gas Tank - Looks like a scratch that was touched up and now the touch up paint is coming off...



3rd pic - Looks terrible...I would just repaint it.



The rear bumper is a repaint chipping away or someone burned it with a rotary buffer





Goo-Gone residue will polish out



Now that I think of it, you should just repaint the whole rear bumper since there is a decent amount of unfixable damage on it.



Glass will polish out with glass or chrome polish



Carpets...Try pre-treating with some carpet spot remover and using then using your favorite carpet shampoo.





Hope my insight helps...Good Luck.

For the gas tank, could I do a touch up paint again, but a better job? what are my options?



For the 3rd picture I know it looks terrible, are you telling me I should repaint the whole front bumper, that section in the pic? The paint seems a little dull there, but I don't know that repainting would be nessisary, could you explain what you see and why it needs that? Could you give me a less costly way (but not ghetto way) of fixing up that area?



For the rear bumper, I think that gouge may be too deep for touch up paint. I would like to know all my options of what I can do about the scraches/gouge before repainting. Quoteing me: "In the second picture of the gouge in the rear left bumper, you can see the paint fading away or somthing?"

Would wetsanding do anything there?



How much would repainting in a small area run, or is the only way to do it is repaint the whole panel. You did say that the rear bumper damage is unfixable, so I guess I gotta fork out for a repaint. I have a few other minor scraches that can be solved with touch up paint, but the front and rear bumpers are a little more severe.



For the carpets, is 303's carpet solution a good choice for both spot and shampoo? edit: I'll try woolite before I get 303. I tryed to capture every detail with the pics, it looks like I did.

 

[GoodnClean]

The front bumper there is simply bad body shop work. It looks like it could have even been hand painted. Thats some of the worst bodywork I've ever seen.



Really the only thing you can do for the front is have it resprayed properly. They'll have to do the whole bumper cover, or they pay colorcoat only that area and clearcoat the whole bumper. Get some estimates, around here that bumper would cost between $250-$850 depending on the shop.



As for the rear, to me that looks like another bad repaint that is now beginning to flake away. If they don't remove the cover when they paint it that can happen around the edges. All reputable shops will remove the bumper cover and then refinish and repair. Depending on who quotes you they may even suggest the cover be replaced because of that gouge. Some shops will repair covers while others totally replace them if there is any damage to the cover itself. Again, $350 (they have to repair the gouge) to even $1500 if they want to replace the cover.



There are always things you can do, airbrush companies. I just saw a 2002 ES300 in silver that had a scuff airbrushed out of the bumper and it looked HORRIBLE, the scuff had to look better...

 

[mnbv]

left side

right side

You can see the difference in the stock paint and repainted paint.



And here is the last problem that I know of in the paint. The right hood area.

You can see horizontal lines that look like a paint brush. Who the hell would paint a car with a brush?? You may not see it obviously in the picture, but one of my friends looked at it and thought right away it looked like a basic paint brush was used. Anyway, I may have to get the fender and hood redone also while I am at it.



So far I know that the left fender, left hood area (only the left hood area I was told for the hood at least), rear bumper and front bumper have been repainted in some way (a very bad way). I looked very closely at the front bumper and those wires you see are actually holding the cracked area of the bumper together in some way. Man, this guy i bought this car from really did some ghetto repairs. The hood also has extreamly small little dents in it, like 1 mm across, possibly from previous dents that were "fixed" By replacing the cover, do you mean the whole bumper? I really dident think that the rear bumper was repainted, it looks much like areas that are stock paint for sure. Like I said, the guy that did this is right down the street, he offered to answer any question I have, but his accent is hard to understand at times.

What do you think about the hood and left fender and what I should do with with everything else also?

 

[admac]

that front bumper looks just awful. the fender shot at least looks like it was sprayed since the orange peel is so intense. i don't think this is a paint job that can really be saved. you might honestly be better off with a earl sheib paintjob since repairing this one to good spec would probably run you a couple grand.

 

[Buick_guy]

Is this your car?

 

[Don]

This one looks like they used the wrong type of tape to tape off the bumper cover. So when they removed the tape, it started to peel off the clearcoat

This is just plain poor prep work. Notice the circled area on the bottom, they didn't even sand the original paint smooth where it had flaked off, now it sticks out like a sore thumb...and what's up with the big gouge circled on top?

This one just bothers me...a complete hack job. They didn't bother to remove the grill piece..look at the overspray on it, and what's with the wire sticking out, the heavy grit sanding marks, the unfilled crack that was just painted over???

 

[mnbv]

yea, it sucks, and yes it is my car.

 

[getfit74]

The car has a salvage title because of this one below. The car was in a minor fender bender and the guy who I bought it from owns a body shop. He actually was going to keep the car but he needed a 4 door (it's a coupe) because of kids. .

A salvage title was issued for a minor fender bender? I doubt that. A car doesnt get a salvage title unless its totaled and then rebuilt. I hate to be a killjoy but Id say the body shop owner bought a totaled car and fixed it as cheaply as possible to turn a profit....as evidenced by the shoddy paint and body work. The carpet stains look like the car sat open to the weather for some time. As a general rule, you want to stay as far away from a salvage car as possible.

 

[imported_BretFraz]

As a general rule, you want to stay as far away from a salvage car as possible.

Amen to that!!



But didn't he say he bought it already? :scared

 

[mnbv]

Yes I bought it, I do know for sure that it only was a minor fender bender, the insurance companies total stuff very easily, that is the only reason why it has a salvage title. Every part is original, but some has been crappily repainted. I am surprised that the rear bumper was repainted, it looks stock besides the chiping. I used a really good camera also, you can see every detail. Beyond repainting, what would you recommend I should do for each picture?

Here is another, you can see a very small crack if you look closely along with the obvious light scraches.

Here is my extreamly dirty wells, this one is the worst. I am thinking about using ornage blast on it.

Here is a broken part of the grill area. you can see how there is less gloss in the "repaired" area. I actually have the part hat is broken, I was thinking I should epoxy it.

I was mostly trying to get swirls in this picture, but there is a scrach there also.

Just so you know, I am going to use SSR2.5, SSR1 and VM for polishing out those swirls by hand unfortuantly.



I really can't belive the rear bumper was repainted, it looks like the other non-painted areas, unlike the left front fender.

I have another question also, in the very second picture with the "etching" you can see the reflections look wavy (unlike the right fender picture), was that area repainted also?

 

[admac]

i don't think your rear bumper was repainted, but it's certainly not in good shape. the front fascia though is toast. i suppose you MIGHT be able to make it shine some but it's never going to look good.

 

[travisdecpn]

I would say that you should get the whole car prepped and sprayed. You are going to spend countless hours trying to fix problems that aren't going to be corrected with any amount of polishing. Even if you succeed in removing some of the defects, it seems as though every panel has it's own characteristics. Sorry to be so blunt. Good luck on the road ahead.

 

[Don]

A salvage title was issued for a minor fender bender? I doubt that. A car doesnt get a salvage title unless its totaled and then rebuilt. I hate to be a killjoy but Id say the body shop owner bought a totaled car and fixed it as cheaply as possible to turn a profit....as evidenced by the shoddy paint and body work. The carpet stains look like the car sat open to the weather for some time. As a general rule, you want to stay as far away from a salvage car as possible.

It depends on the age & make of the car. A 10 year old Chevy Cavalier could be totalled with *relatively* minor damage because the cost of repairing it PROPERLY is greater than the book value of the car.



I doubt the car is a Cav, but if it is an older car that took "skin" damage on one side from the front to the rear, it could easily been labeled "totaled" when in fact it really isn't.

 

[grimmster]

I would start polishing and cleaning the thing and then take pics. It's hard to help when he paint is in it's current condition to see how bad it will be after a polish/wax.

 

[BradE]

No amount of detailing in the world is going to fix crappy body work. Sorry.

 

[getfit74]

It depends on the age & make of the car. A 10 year old Chevy Cavalier could be totalled with *relatively* minor damage because the cost of repairing it PROPERLY is greater than the book value of the car.



I doubt the car is a Cav, but if it is an older car that took "skin" damage on one side from the front to the rear, it could easily been labeled "totaled" when in fact it really isn't.

Even so, there are probably so many Cavs in the same price range that ARENT salvage cars, it hardly makes it worth the risk. A cheap car is a cheap car, why buy a salvage? Even if you own the shop, body work is expensive, hardly makes it worht buying a "cheap car" salvage. Also, you never know when the car was Salvaged could have been completely destroyed 2 days after it was bought new. Point is, to stay far away from any salvage is good advice.