avoiding a rude customer? or just me?

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I am posting the following true story just to show you that it is possible to avoid creating a rude reaction from a customer and at the same time, actually gain even more business.



It all began about a month ago when the local newspaper here in Southern New Jersey printed an article about my detailing business. Because of that article I began to get a number of people calling and emailing me asking about my detailing services.



In response to that article, a couple of weeks ago I got a call from a woman asking me if I would do just the interior of her car. (To be honest, I don't) But since I am always looking to gain new customers, I asked what kind of car, she said it was a mid size SUV.



I knew that other detailers usually charge $25 for a normal size car, so I quoted her $35. However, I also told her that if she gave me the opportunity to detail the interior of her SUV for $35, I would give her a $35 Off Certificate good towards a complete detailing next spring.



Her response was not rude. Actually, it was completely opposite. She went on saying; surely you must charge more than $35 for an interior detailing? I told her; actually I usually do not do just interiors, however since I am always willing to gain a good customer, I am more than willing to make you a reasonable offer. You agree to have me clean the interior of your SUV for $35 and I will give you a credit of the $35 that you can spend towards having me do a full interior/exterior detail next spring.



Before I could get a word in she said; it's a deal. She also said that she wanted me to stay on the line because she was at work and a friend of hers also wanted to talk to me about getting two cars completely detailed. So as a result of that phone call I ended up doing her interior (along with a free exterior wash) for $35 and also two complete detailings for her freind at full list price.



Since I never like to see a customer upset, I thought that a price of $35 was fair. Especially, when you consider that I already detailed her friends two cars at full price and in the process probably gained two good customers.



As you can clearly see, it is always a good idea to try to focus on looking at everything from the viewpoint of the customer. That's the basic foundation for helping a business define itâ€â„¢s mission. In order to begin to look at things from the customers' perspective you should always be thinking about the following questions; Who is the customer? Where is the customer? What does the customer value? What are the realities of the customer? Once the mission of your business is thoughtfully defined, you will then be able to begin to establish meaningful objectives and set realistic goals.



Of course, I would rather not get involved in just doing interiors, however, in order to have a chance to gain another good customer or in this case, two new customers, it is much better to remain focused on meeting the needs of the customer and to always try to find a solution that is both fair and reasonable.



That's a true story.
 
And a Happy New Year to you Jim and everyone here at Autopia!



I guess that's where the saying comes from that opportunity only knocks once. Or, as in this case, opportunity only calls once. Thanks for the reply.
 
Only $35 to clean an SUV interior? Seriously? What did that include?



BTW, I sometimes do interior only details. Some people are content to run their cars through at the car wash but really care about how the interior looks.
 
35 is way cheap for an interior detail...we would charge $75 for that here in the pocono's and thats cheaper then anyone around these areas... in NJ we can pull in $300 details you can raise your prices lol
 
My post was about doing whatever it takes in order for me to gain a new customer. Not about whether $35 or $75 is enough to charge for an interior detail.



As I stated in my original post, 'I would rather not get involved in just doing interiors, however, in order to have a chance to gain another good customer or in this case, two new customers, it is much better to remain focused on meeting the needs of the customer'.



As you can clearly see, sometimes it is difficult for a detailing business owner to totally focus on meeting the needs of a customer. Many owners really do not have a clue about how to avoid creating a rude reaction from a customer. They would much rather just remain entrenched in making as much money as they possibly can at the moment. They have almost always operated under the premise; 'Hey, that's the price. Take it or leave it.' And then, after a prospective customer hangs up the phone, they wonder; was it me? or just another rude customer?



Personally, when someone calls with a special need I will almost always try to do whatever it takes to satisfy that need. Hey, it's worked so far.



In summary, I would much rather do whatever it takes to gain a new customer (or in this case two new customers) for life, rather than scare them away by focusing on the price.
 
Frank-the only problem I see with you approach is the day you do charge this person your full price. She may then decide you charge too much and find someone down the street who will do the work for less.



My first real regular customer (as of Monday, I will have been detailing his cars for 11 years) told me when I offered him a discount for doing both of his cars, "don't be afraid to charge what you feel your work is worth."



When I first started, I thought the best approach was to compete on price. Not only does that only get you the discount seekers with no loyalty, but it scares off quality minded clients because they can't believe you will do a good job at a low price. The first time I raised my prices, not only did I make more money, but my total cars per year, along with the overall value of the cars increased.



I'm not saying your are wrong for detailing this woman's interior for $35, I'm just saying that is an approach that doesn't work for me.



BTW, my interior needs a little work...how does Tuesday sound? ;)
 
Hey Scott,



Thanks for the reply. However, my approach had nothing to do with the price that I offered. And since I have already detailed her friends two cars, she clearly understands the full price I charge for a complete detailing.



Maybe you missed the part about the response to my offer.

"She went on saying; surely you must charge more than $35 for an interior detailing? I told her; actually I usually do not do just interiors, however since I am always willing to gain a good customer, I am more than willing to make you a reasonable offer. You agree to have me clean the interior of your SUV for $35 and I will give you a credit of the $35 that you can spend towards having me do a full interior/exterior detail next spring."
 
Frank,

It sounds like good business sense to me. Instead of focusing on what you would want to do to her car you focused on what she wanted you to do to her car. You also created an oppourtunity for her to come back in the spring. At the same time you picked up more customers.

Thanks for sharing your story. Nice job.
 
Frank-I didn't miss anything, I'm just saying that isn't an approach that works for me. BTW, doing just interiors is a good way to stay busy on lousy weather days.
 
Thanks for the reply Shawn.



As you can clearly see, I believe that when you are operating a detailing business, the primary focus should always be to meet and exceed the expectations of the customer. It is my feeling that the price should always be secondary.



I find it interesting when detailing business owners begin to play pricing games with customers only because they have some time that day. In most cases it is the business owner who focused on the price in the first place. Not the customer. What is even more amazing is when the owner fools themselves into believing that people only concerned about price do not make good customers and they certainly are not loyal. Maybe this is just another reason why some businesses fail. Then again, maybe they know something about customers we haven't learned yet.



In summary, I would much rather stay completely focused on satisfying the needs of my customers.
 
I understand both sides of the argument and I respect both your opinions. I think part of being a successful business is identifying what works best for you and your market. No plan is perfect for everyone and I find it interesting to hear varying opinions on running a business.
 
Frank,

I'd love to see a copy of the article that was written about your business. Is there any way you could share it here? I often use your screename along with a topic of interest when I search for advice. Thanks for sharing your story.

Marty
 
Hey whats up MirriorFinish? I Just wanted to tell you before hand that this is not directed at you in anyway. I understand why you sold for what you did. This is something that kind of spins off from your post.



That being said,



Pricing is very important in our industry. When I say our industry I mean the professional detailing industry. We are craftsmen just like learning to become a plumber. Unfortunatly you don't have to be lienced to be a professonal detailer. But we put just as much time into our craft as any other tradesman. It's a skill and an art. When professional companys (I use professional loosely) charge prices that are way below the industry standard it hurts the industry. Ther is a reason the prices are the way they are. It takes real work to detail a vehicle the right way. I not comparing a professional to a guy who cleans his budies car for $50 because he jammed a coat of wax on it. I'm refering to a professional company who because either they don't know the going rate or because of the poor way they do it, they charge really low rates. Some companys do this just to get the work. When a bunch of Mickey Mouse company's in an area are charging stupidly low prices it kills the industry. People (the un-educated detail consumer) see these low prices and think this is the norm. Then they get their car done and they assume that the poor quality is the norm. It kills the industry.Now when they see the prices of a skilled technition who is charging what they should they think there is no way I'll pay that much because the last "professionals" job was not worth the money they paid. Alot of people think, "hey anybody can clean a car, this is an easy job" If you want to be a professional learn the trade, don't be a butcher bottom feeder. Go work in a shop under a real pro and learn the trade. I'm not talking about the person who works on their own cars, I'm talking about the people calling themselves professionals because they waxed a few cars(which they are probably doing wrong anyways) The same goes for people selling quality detailing products. They sell it to "Joe Average" with the wrong instructions and wonder why the customers not happy with the products. Detailing is a professional trade just like any other.



Just my 2 cents,



JW
 
marstang said:
Frank,

I'd love to see a copy of the article that was written about your business. Is there any way you could share it here? I often use your screename along with a topic of interest when I search for advice. Thanks for sharing your story.

Marty



Marty,



Thanks for that good post. I find it interesting that you would use my screename along with a topic of interest when you do a search. That's pretty cool. Also, I will see what I can do about getting a copy of that article shared here.



Thanks again.
 
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