Afraid to QD new car

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I'm sure this topic must have come up before, sorry if I'm being redundant. I checked the site and could not find it.. anyhow..



I'm afraid to Quick Detail my car. I have always heard that if you wipe dust, it will scratch the paint. I jsut spent a weekend doing a multicoat of zaino products, my car looks fabulous. It is the Dark blue-black. What is the best way to QD without scratching paint? Should I get a cal duster?? Thanks,



Joe
 
IMO a little dust is not an issue when you QD. I have multiple layers of Z on my cars and I QD them with Z6 on a pretty regular basis as long as what you're dealing with is dust. If the paint has more substantial dirt/debris on it then I will opt to wash with Z7 then QD with Z6. Just be sure to not use too much QD and use a very soft cotton towel per Sal's instructions or use a soft plush MF towel as I do.



I can't give you any advice on the Cal duster since I have never used one. I'm sure someone else will chime in on that point. Welcome to the Zaino shine! :xyxthumbs
 
Check out the e-book as it gives a pretty good technique for QDING.....I also remember a thread somewhere where everyone described how they QD....



I use two MF towels one for wiping the QD and one for the final buff....rotating often to a clean area of the wiping towel and buffing towel....
 
If you have multiple coats of Zanio on your car, then even if the dust does scratch, it won't scratch your paint surface, but rather the Zanio that's protecting the car.
 
Arterion said:
If you have multiple coats of Zanio on your car, then even if the dust does scratch, it won't scratch your paint surface, but rather the Zanio that's protecting the car.
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Really? I always thought Zaino layers were _extremely_ thin and were not harder than rock (dust particles). Where did you pick up this info?
 
Ron Ketcham used to speak of how polymers like Klasse and Zaino provide a 'sacrificial' layer of protection, not only from the elements but also from very light swirls. In other words, your polymer sealant layer will take the brunt of the damage caused by exposure to the elements as well as swirl-marks from detailing your car. Often when I completely removed a sealant from my car, a lot of the swirl-marks disappeared as well. These swirls that disappeared were presumably swirls in the sealant...not the clear-coat.
 
Intermezzo said:
Ron Ketcham used to speak of how polymers like Klasse and Zaino provide a 'sacrificial' layer of protection, not only from the elements but also from very light swirls. In other words, your polymer sealant layer will take the brunt of the damage caused by exposure to the elements as well as swirl-marks from detailing your car. Often when I completely removed a sealant from my car, a lot of the swirl-marks disappeared as well. These swirls that disappeared were presumably swirls in the sealant...not the clear-coat.
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Wouldn't that be true with every product, polymer or not? I mean, anytime you apply a layer of product on paint you are essentially placing that product between your paint and the elements. So if the layer of product is damaged by dust, dirt, whatever, it will show swirls, not the paint underneath as it is protected.
 
Yes, that is pretty much true. But the harder it is the better it protects before it gives way and lets the clearcoat take the brunt.
 
Yes, it would apply to pretty much any protectant. I should revise my original post to say that polymer sealants provide a more effective sacrificial layer than traditional carnaubas.
 
. . . and I should revise my original post to be more specific and say that no polymer or other layer is going to prevent real swirl marks from dust particles hard enough to swirl paint.



StonGard on the other hand . . .
 
reduce your chances on swirls from qd



seal your car up



us a bit of qd



qd after washes only



use a microfiber towel



happy detailing and welcome to autopia
 
Sure, dust will scratch protectants. The question is, are mutiple layers of Zanio thick enough to absorb dust scratches?



I personally think "yes", though you are entitled to your opinion. We can all speculate, but unless someone does scientific tests, it will only be speculation.



Also, why do you want to QD right after a wash? Most QDs are designed to touch-up cars between washings. Or at least that's what the advertising says.
 
Why would you need to QD a car right after a wash?



And you really think dragging a mop over your car isn't going to scratch it? I'd feel safer using some lubricant spray and a microfiber.
 
Why QD after a wash? To remove waterspots for one. Another great reason would be to supplement the protectant you are using: Sonus or ultra-diluted SG-water mixture for Klasse, Z6 for Zaino, One Grand Showoff or Clear Pearl or other for Carnauba products. All of these add to the shine and some add to the longetivity of the protectant they are on.



I always QD after a wash to remove any waterspotting.
 
Yeah, we had hard water here so QD after wash to remove any spots and exactly, becasue it is fun. Plus the z6 smells so damn good. The california duster works really good, and it's way differant then even using a MF becuse you are not polishing at all, just lightly touching the surface with it. The duster has parrafin soaked threads and attracts the dust. When you first use it, some may get on the car but after it's seasoned, works great. With MF, you have to rub the paint, and that's where the sratching happens.
 
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