97 Town Car resurgence

Bakerman

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Hello again,

This is my first foray into the world of detailing and I have more questions than I can ask at one time. However I will start slow and hope I do not pester to the point of madness.

First off I got this car from my mother's estate, so I am going to do what I can to restore it to it's former glory. The car was in okay shape when I got it. More mechanical issues than beauty problems. Now that I have repaired the major mechanical troubles I am going to use this Spring to do what I can to fix the appearance.

I also want to state that I am not flush with cash ,so I don't want to indulge anyone's fantasy in regards to spending a mint to fix her up. I will be looking for entry level equipment and probably not go too far beyond that in order to give the old girl a sprucing up.

Like I said at the beginning I am completely lost regarding detailing. Please try to be gentle and remember I am a simple caveman and your world confuses and frightens me. LOL.

Okay so to start off I am having a spot paint job done to the hood and trunk and passenger door, to correct some awful paint malfunctions( think leprosy).
That should be accomplished after the first of the year. I thought long and hard about doing it myself and then realized the cash outlay just didn't make sense. So off to Maaco (I know I know ). But even the worst job can't look as bad as it does now. So once that is corrected I will commence with trying to bring the best out of the car.

This is where you good people come in. I need your help in ALL matters of detailing. I am planning on getting a Porter Cable DA. Some compound to help fix the spider web in the existing paint, and some kind of wax ,polish and sealer to accomplish my goal. There is a lot of gunk on the wheel rims that I need to get off, and I will require some help with fixing the rims up to get them to shine. I will be posting pictures of the areas I am working on to help anyone to get a better grasp as to the mess I am cleaning up.

My first question is of course how to remove or reduce the spider web paint problems? What degree of pads and what brand name type of compound or polish will be needed to help this. Thanks in advance and if I don't get back soon, Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas to everyone.

Bakerman
 
Welcome to AutopiaForums!

Since you are looking at a Porter Cable to begin with I would suggest moving into one the top quality Porter Cable kits that come with the polishes and pads you need to get started. This will allow you to go with a premium manufacturer while still saving money over purchasing everything seperately.

I would recommend the Wolfgang Duo & Porter Cable 7424 kit. I have linked it to our store. With this kit you will save about 45 dollars over retail and it has everything you need to get started. Not to mention the Wolfgang polishes are some of the best in the world and the advanced abrasives in it will make your paint glow.

A brief run down on how to use it would be...

Start with the Orange Pad in conjunction with Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0. Apply 3 dime sized drops to the pad and hold the machine firmly to the paint. Use speed 5 or 6 and work a 2 x 2 section. Polish is overlapping passes making sure to move your arm slow, letting the polisher do the work for you. Continue working in overlapping passes until the polish starts to look clear, then remove the residue with a microfiber towel. Then repeat, working a 2x2 section until the car is done.

Follow this up with Wolfgang Finishing Glaze and the gray pad. Use the same guidelines above, but you may consider working a slightly larger area since you final polishing.

In addition to the kit you will need a quality wax or sealant to seal the paint and keep it looking great. I would recommend BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond All Finish Paint Protection.

Additionally, because of the age of the paint, you may find your polishing pads load up quickly. You will either need to clean them or use fresh pads. I would include in my order 6 pads. Here is a link for the 6 pad combo.

I would include 3 more orange pads, 2 white pads (I like white better than gray for finish polishing), and 1 gold pad for applying the wax or sealant)
 
Can I apply wax and sealer to a newly painted area? Should I wait a few days?
I don't want to mess up the paint job.

Bman
 
Can I apply wax and sealer to a newly painted area? Should I wait a few days?
I don't want to mess up the paint job.

Bman

The rule of thumb with new paint is to wait 30 days unless it baked or has a hardener or catalyst additive incorporated at the time of application.

I've been out of the business for a while and new technology may dictate differently.
 
The rule of thumb with new paint is to wait 30 days unless it baked or has a hardener or catalyst additive incorporated at the time of application.

I've been out of the business for a while and new technology may dictate differently.

Exactly. You want to let the solvents escape from the paint completely. I am not sure if any way or sealant can trap them completely, if the solvent is strong enough to liquify paint for spraying I am pretty sure that wax isn't going to stand in the way. I am not sure about water based paints though, which take even longer to cure.

Since 30-90 days with out waxing isn't going to hurt the paint I would say wait. Talk to the painter and get their recommendations as well.
 
Man that '97 is a big car, the hood is longer than many cars built today. My only advice would be to go slowly and always work clean, using clean cloths & pads I mean.
 
Many thanks to all. Yes she is a big car, I just got her back and the paint job is a huge improvement. The guy at the paint shop said wait at least 30 days before waxing. So I'll follow his advice.

There is a definite difference between the old and new paint. I only had the really bad areas spot painted. I'm hoping some compounding and polishing can help even things out a bit. I'm going to wait for nicer weather to get that accomplished. I've got a ways to go with this car but I'm really looking forward to fixing her up.

Bakerman
 
Yes, that towncar will be a lot of ground to cover, but I know you can do it. Be sure to post pictures of your progress.
 
Here are some before....................

Pretty ugly.
 

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