911 Carrera Detailing Plan, Ceramic, and PPF

FIDOAG14

FIDOAG14

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Howdy all,

My father-in-law recently purchased a 2012 911 Carrera and we are planning on getting it all gussied up for Christmas. I`ve put together a plan based on what I think it probably needs but I figured my fellow Autopians could weigh in. The color is dark blue metallic and the paint is in pretty good condition, just seems thirsty for some product. I`d say little to no corrective work is needed. He had the shop he bought it from put a PPF on the car that covers the front of the car including the hood.

Here`s the plan I put together based on what products I`ve got on hand and what he purchased:

Wash
Griot`s Garage Car Wash, two bucket method with a sponge.

Decon
Optimum Ferrex Iron Remover on everything that`s not PPF`d
Sonus Claybar on everything that`s not PPF`d

Polish & Prep
Blackfire SRC Polish w/ Lake Country CCS Pad`s (either green or blue) again avoiding PPF
Optimum Paint Prep wipe down

Ceramic Coating
CQuartz for paint
CQuartz Skin for PPF

Glass
Stoner`s Invisible Glass

Interior
303

Wheels
Poorboys wheel wax

That`s the plan anyway, unless y`all see anything wrong with it. I do have two questions that go along with this.

I have some P21S that I think would look pretty good on the car, can I top the cquartz with it after a few days have passed for the coating to cure?
If I can top the cquartz can also top the cquartz skin on the PPF?

I`ve used all kinds of waxes and sealants on paint but I`ve never done anything with PPF so I`m not sure what to expect and I definitely don`t want to screw it up.
 
Plan sounds pretty solid to me. I`d look into a coating for the wheels as Porsche brake dust is pretty horrendous.

See what the paint likes and start with your least aggressive pad first.

DO NOT top your coating with a wax or sealant. It will `clog` the coating and basically ruin the coating. I treat PPF just like paint when coating. Some may even be able to be polished gently/lightly, but tread carefully here as you may not know what brand/type of PPF was used.

Hope this helps, enjoy that 911 and working on it and I look forward to seeing some pics!!
 
I agree don`t top the coating with a wax. Either wax it or coat it.

PPF can be lightly polished but try in a small spot first before doing the entire thing.

If you have left over UK then coat the wheels with it. Skin will work just fine. Skin does need a 4 hour wait time for a second layer and I would recommend to add another layer.

Post pics when you are done.
 
Thanks for the feedback! And good idea on using the skin on the wheels as well. I would certainly think there will be enough for the ppf and the wheels.

Going to have to wait for it to warm up a little before we get started. Probably Monday or Tuesday.

I will definitely post pics once we get it all cleaned up!
 
Took me a little while to get back here and post the finished result but it turned out great! Thanks Guz & Sizzle for the input. All-in-all it took us about 4.5 hours to do everything. I led the process and my father-in-law followed behind to dry, buff, etc. The cquartz went on well and was so easy to use, I was very very pleased with it. There are a few areas on the car like around the rear haunches that could have used some more aggressive polishing or even compounding but we just kept things simple with a single-step polish.

The photos I took are not great, the sun was mostly behind the trees when we pulled it out but I assure you it looked really good. My father-in-law was very happy with it and that`s what counts!

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Well hello again. After three years my father-in-law has come around to the conclusion that the daily gets the ceramic and the weekend you gets the fancy wax. So, we plan on stripping down the Porsche and putting some p21s on it.

My question is, after three years, would a wash, polish, wax be sufficient in removing whatever ceramic is left?

It’s a garage queen that probably hasn’t been washed but a handful of times the past three years so I can’t imagine the ceramic coating would be in bad shape. In fact, I’d be shocked if it wasn’t pretty much fine.

Additionally, how do I get it off the ppf?
 
Yes, that regiment should be fine for removing the coating. The coating doesn't last too long on PPF, I'd be surprised if any is left after 3 years, but you can lightly polish it, and then use a panel wipe product on the entire car to ensure that there is nothing left on the surface and you will be ready to wax.

Have fun, and pics when done!
 
FIDOAG14- Just out of curiosity, why not leave the Coating alone if it's still OK? Three years...the OptiCoat v1.0 I used on the Tahoe's wheels lasted a lot longer than that and it was probably used a lot more than your Porsche.
 
Well partly because it’s supposed to be cold out at the lake this week and we are going to be looking for something to do in the shop. And partly because he doesn’t love the look of ceramic on it, would rather have his fun car look like a $1M bucks with some fine carnauba.
 
FIDOAG14:
Do you any other carnauba wax(es) at your disposal other than P21S?
Not that this is a so-so "fine wax", as you call it, but that Concourse Show Car million-dollar look may require a true show car wax like Pinnacle's Sovereign or Wolfgang's Fuzion, or some carnauba wax from Polish Angel. But these are indeed expensive waxes and may be more than what you wish to spend for the show car look you desire.
Myself I've had good luck with Collinite No. 915 Marque D'Elegance wax. It is relatively "inexpensive" compared to those listed above and it's wax-on-wax-off application is easy in normal weather (humid or cool, you do need to wait a little bit to remove it) It can be layered, but I rarely do that. I find it last a long time for a " beauty wax", but most the vehicles I have done are summer-driven collectibles or muscle cars that will be shown at local car shows and not trailer queens or true show cars. This particular wax can be difficult to find and you may need to order it directly from Collinite.
That said the Collinite 915 sits collecting dust as I have a small container of Merlin's no- longer- made Enchanted Concours Wax. Best wax BY FAR I will ever use. See:
Dr Oldz

Thread 'Review: Merlins Enchanted Concours Wax'

I was fortunate enough for Merlin to reach out and try his wax out b4 it’s launch.

As some of you know, I tend to be a traditionalist and prefer a paste wax for a lot of my details. While coatings are indeed great, I feel they don’t offer the look of a paste wax. Sure the durability of a wax isn’t that of a coating but for those who maintain in proper intervals it’s ok to use a wax. Anyway that is a whole other topic.

First I must say that this wax was given to me to share my honest thoughts with Merlin a while back. I have applied this to 12 vehicles thus far and feel I now have a...
 
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