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Chuckmotor

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A friend of mine gave me his car care pack that came with his Lexus RX300. It's packaged in black bottles and the brand name is "Hendrick Autoguard." (Rick Hendrick owns many many dealerships in NC and in the South.) I figure it's repackaged stuff, but I have no clue what it actually is. This afternoon, I decided to use it on a friend's black Mercedes CLK. It's a pretty new car, so I just clayed it real quick for prep. (Plus, I wasn't getting compensated for the supplies, so I didn't want to waste money.) I then waxed it with something from Hendrick Autoguard called "Exterior Renewer." I decided that this was a synthetic wax because on the back label, it says it lasts for 6 months. It's a lightly green tinted white liquid, and it has petroleum distilates, so it smells like a gas station. It also says it has Teflon in it. I applied it on the car, and it hazed and dried quickly, so I buffed it out within 20 minutes of applying it. I left one panel un-buffed for an hour so I could compare it to the rest of the car which was buffed within 20 minutes, and there was no difference. The wax came off very nicely and very easily. Suprisingly, it left a mirror-reflective gloss!! The paint looked incredible and very very reflective! However, it did leave some very light pink/white residue in some tiny cracks, but other than that, it was super! Does anybody have any idea what kind of wax this is? Curiosity is killing me! I would think it's a nice high class wax, but it has Teflon in it, so that is unlikely. I searched for Hendrick Autoguard on Yahoo and found it for sale at other Hendrick dealerships, such as Lexus and Acura dealers, in North Carolina. Any ideas what it is?
 
Right off the bat I'm thinking it might be something like Liquid Glass, or perhaps a Malco product...not really sure though. Does it seperate (sp?) when left to sit?
 
Does it seperate? What do you mean by this, and how can I tell if it "separates?" If it does "seperate," what does THAT mean? Does that mean that it is Liquid Glass or something?
 
It's like mixing oil and water. Look at some Italian salad dressing some time and see how it has multiple layers? This is due to it being a heterogenious solution. . . the parts are not always the same, you have to mix it up to get it to be the same. That's why we always mix most "seperatable" :) things before using them.



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Ooh... well in that case, it definitly does seperate. It must be shaken well before used, and before it is shaken, I can tell that some if it is all gloppy, and there is a thinner liquid on top. After a good shaking, though, I can tell that it is completely homogeneous.

Ok, so it has Teflon, smells like gasoline, is light green, is synthetic, dries quickly, leaves tiny traces of light pink residue in cracks, and seperates... any ideas what it is? I'm not sure if it has any cleaning agents, but I'm guessing that it does, based on the name, which is Exterior Renewer.
 
It is made for Hendricks by a local bathtubber in the Charlotte area.



Not a bad product, but not great either. Rick makes his dealerships use as much of the other cleaning products they can from this company.



Must be a "good buddy" deal.



It is a lite polymer/synthetic wax blend, the solvents are the low grade (which gives off the odor mentioned) and has a pretty high percentage of dimethal silicone fluid in the mix. (the high shine you see is from this component).



Won't do any damage, but as it states, "renew every 6 months", since the main ingredient is the dimethal and they go away pretty quick.



Ketch

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I'm wondering just what the results of any "wax" job tells us immediately after it is applied. Far more telling is what its doing two, four or six months down the road. Sorry, I realize I'm not spreading original thought here
 
Hey Chuck, go to one of the Hendrick dealerships on Independence Blvd. and ask the detail manager what it is or who makes it for hendricks, and maybe they can help. Ive used some of their stuff before, mainly dressings. Jason
 
What do you classify as a "cheap" low grade solvent? And what do you classify as a better one for use in a wax product?



Also, as far as the DMS oil in the product, I am assuming that you had it analyzed? If this is the only component used for shine it doesn't have a chance to last 6 months.....you should know that.
 
Many use low grades that are not highly refined to remove some of the other trace solvents.



One of the best is T-190 that was a Shell mineral spirits, also known as "odorless", but still has a small odor to it.



Would have to call the plant to find who we are sourcing from at this point.



Some of the bathtubbers just use keosene or the very cheapest mineral spirits they can get.



The percentage used in a product will of course effect how strong the odor of the solvent is.



From what I have seen of the mentioned product, it has a PDMS, percentage unknown, but does contain a DMS, since people want to see an immediate shine factor, which it will give.



The versions of PDMS, some cure quickly, some slowly and then that is affected by the percentage of solvent and water in the formula.



Have worked with the some dealers in NC that buy from the company that makes this line for Hendricks, can't recall the name at this time, been a couple of years.



Most of the products were loaded with cheap components, butyl's, metasilica, TSP, crystiline silica, etc. They still produce and sell a hydrofluric acid wheel cleaner.



All rather typical of a "bathtubber" who thinks that low price is all that a customer desires.

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The owner decide to put the car for sale. i refresh the exterior , is not a full correction
i would say the exterior is better than what u get new from dealer :D , anyway is an `87 porsche turbo , was done some mod. to it and i will add them later.
205 on hex polish pad and DA , opti-seal and bfwd sealant as protection

test spot, and some pic before /after the hood.
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Looks great cos. What color is that? I don't think I have ever seen that color before.
How do you like the Hex pads?
 
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