3M Perfect-it 3000 Ultrafina SE or Meguiar's #82 ???

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g725s

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I want to remove light spider web and hopefully get a near perfect finish before waxing. I am looking at a chart posted here about the cutting ability of different products:

http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-detailing/117350-new-abrasives-chart.html



I can get either of the above that I mention at a local paint store for a good price. I would be using a PC with a Meguiar's W9006 6.5" finishing pad.



The 3M Ultrafina 06068 is nearly twice the price. Can the two really be compared in relation to the above chart in the link and in relation to the job they would do? And considering I'm using a PC and not a rotary.
 
#82 should do the trick. I love the Ultrafina, but the price here is just ridiculously high. Optimum polish comes close or better than the Ultrafina in it working time.
 
Thanks EdLancer. Yes I have read that Ultrafina is well liked. But the price is $36 where the #82 is $18 here. It is the only store close that I have found that carries the full line of both 3M and Meguiar's, both polishes and pads for each in stock. They do not have Optimum products.
 
$36 for the Ultrafina is good price, it is $79usd here ...LoL



I myself like #82, it was the polish I started out with and it has great optical properties compared to #80.
 
I'm tempted to get the Ultrafina. My time is valuable and I'd rather have the better product if time and results will be better for it. What do you mean you only use UF as a jewling product?
 
g725s said:
I'm tempted to get the Ultrafina. My time is valuable and I'd rather have the better product if time and results will be better for it. What do you mean you only use UF as a jewling product?
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UF SE is a jeweling product, not really a polish to remove defects !
 
I don't really have major defects to deal with. Just very light swirls and light spider webbing in the sunlight. I have 3M Perfect-it 3000 Swirl Mark Remover but that still leaves some light swirls in the sunlight. And the Ultrafina is a step after the 3M SMR, so I am thinking that might be the best way to go.



Also it looks like 3M is changing the name of some of this stuff. It looks like "3M Perfect-it 3000 Ultrafina SE 06068" is now called "3M Perfect-it Ultrafine Machine Polish 06068"
 
g725s said:
I don't really have major defects to deal with. Just very light swirls and light spider webbing in the sunlight. I have 3M Perfect-it 3000 Swirl Mark Remover but that still leaves some light swirls in the sunlight. And the Ultrafina is a step after the 3M SMR, so I am thinking that might be the best way to go.



Also it looks like 3M is changing the name of some of this stuff. It looks like "3M Perfect-it 3000 Ultrafina SE 06068" is now called "3M Perfect-it Ultrafine Machine Polish 06068"
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You shouldn't have any swirlies or spider webbing after using a polish. I really haven't heard of a 3M product that is in reality a gentle polish, most behave like compounds from what I have heard. It might be your technique, pads and products used or a combination of both or all of these.
 
EdLancer said:
You shouldn't have any swirlies or spider webbing after using a polish. I really haven't heard of a 3M product that is in reality a gentle polish, most behave like compounds from what I have heard. It might be your technique, pads and products used or a combination of both or all of these.
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Ultrafina is probably their most talked about polish on here and it hardly cuts at all. Its used mostly as a jewelling polish.





Id finish up with ultrafina. It should zap any micromarring.
 
Are buffers swirls defects???



If so, UltraFina will work fine for those as long as they're not too heavy. I'll use UF as a final polish after say SIP/Orange or anytime the finish has been leveled and the primary buffer swirl removal step has been completed. I won't use UF after 105 (or any other compound) coupled with an aggressive pad.



Although the product isn't aggressive itself, if used with a medium pad it will facilitate the the pad function to correct. Great carrier oils and they can do a wonderful job of filling/hiding defects.



I think UF produces a special glassy/glossy look that can't be matched. And, it's super easy to use.
 
David do you like UF more than PO85RD Or PO 87MC ???



David Fermani said:
Are buffers swirls defects???



If so, UltraFina will work fine for those as long as they're not too heavy. I'll use UF as a final polish after say SIP/Orange or anytime the finish has been leveled and the primary buffer swirl removal step has been completed. I won't use UF after 105 (or any other compound) coupled with an aggressive pad.



Although the product isn't aggressive itself, if used with a medium pad it will facilitate the the pad function to correct. Great carrier oils and they can do a wonderful job of filling/hiding defects.



I think UF produces a special glassy/glossy look that can't be matched. And, it's super easy to use.
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David Fermani said:
Are buffers swirls defects???



If so, UltraFina will work fine for those as long as they're not too heavy. I'll use UF as a final polish after say SIP/Orange or anytime the finish has been leveled and the primary buffer swirl removal step has been completed. I won't use UF after 105 (or any other compound) coupled with an aggressive pad.



Although the product isn't aggressive itself, if used with a medium pad it will facilitate the the pad function to correct. Great carrier oils and they can do a wonderful job of filling/hiding defects.



I think UF produces a special glassy/glossy look that can't be matched. And, it's super easy to use.
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+1 :xyxthumbs



Love the look UF gives!
 
what kind of car is is on? on my soft honda paint i was actually able to do a little correction with ultrafina, ive only ever used it as a finnishing polish on everything else. like david said, UF deffinatley gives a glassy appearance. if you have very light swirling,like you said, on soft paint ultrafina should be all you need.. if your paint is harder then i think you'll need more than ultrafina
 
Paying more for Ultrafina and the blue Ultrafina pad sure beats having to go back out and remove holograms.



Been using it a year now and even cars after a year since I last polished them out have ZERO holograms. They might have spider swirls, scuff or scratches due to how they have been cared for, but no holograms coming back.
 
Hey G7s5S,



Since you are in So. Cal, you should try the Mark V Uno. It is less expensive and creates a great finish.



I just had to do a black Mercedes CLS 55 that been repainted. The customer had brought it back to the body shop twice because of the swirls on the hood. The detailer at the body shop had used the 3M system, but kept on getting swirls and then hiding them. I think it was more about how he was buffing than the products.



I was called in to "fix" the problem. I used the Uno with a yellow cutting pad to remove the swirls, then a black foam pad with a PC. The car came out gorgeous. Customer and body shop manager were happy too.
 
MDRX8 said:
David do you like UF more than PO85RD Or PO 87MC ???
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I like each of them and each one very differently. I feel UF finishes out better on super soft paint. Maybe because 85rd has a credible amount of cut and different types of abrasives. If I recall, 85rd is a SRS polish which means it's meant for ceramic clear(sharp). 85rd is a pretty decent product when light correction is needed. I'd just avoid using UF for anything more than final phase finishing. I've NEVER had a single problem finishing out swirl/halo free with UF. I've tested and played around with the 3M pads, but have yet to incorporate one into a detail.
 
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