303 vs. vinylex

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i know that 303 doesnt give a "shiny/glossy" finish like vinylex. my question is which lasts longer? i am thinking of switching to 303 because vinylex has silicone in it and 303 doesnt. and i've read that silicone is bad for rubber and vinyl in the long run. other than silicone vs water based are there any other benefits of one over the other?
 
Both of these products are water based and are very safe to use in the interior or exterior of your car. These two products are also favorites of this board. So don't worry about Vinylex. It's a great product. As for durability, they're both about the same. No real winner in that department in my opinion. Laters
 
from lexol's site:
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VINYLEX contains a unique patented composition of silicone and organo-functional silicone</blockquote>

umm, so vinylex has silicone. isnt silicone bad for rubber/vinyl over time? i have vinlyex now and like it, just heard good things about 303 and was wondering...
 
both products have silicone. I learned on this forum there are hundreds of different types of silicones.



The silicones in quality dressings (303, Vinylex) contain PDMS (polydimethalsilicone.) This is refered to as the good silicone.



Then the Armour All (heard they finally have ONE product with PDMS) comes into play with the bad silicone, this silicone is dimethalsilicone (DMS.) Another thing to look for is pretolium distillates. They are not necessarily a bad thing, but in most lower end products, the chemicals are less refined.



Jason
 
I've tried both products and decided to keep the 303. the 303 has less of a sheen after application. the slight 303 sheen fades to what I call a "protected factory look" after a day. this was the primary factor in my decision because I simply hate the shiny armor all look. it looks cheap and crappy IMH).



furthermore the 303 is supposed to have some UV protection where as it's not specifically mentioned with vinylex. this was a close secondary reason in my decision.



through price is about the same in the smaller quantities, 303 is available in larger quantities. this was another plus in my book for 303.



in my case, I can get both locally but this may be something to consider if you can only get one or the other locally.
 
if I get time over the weekend, I'm going to clean off my hot tub cover an apply 303 to it. that will be the ultimate test as it sits outside in the beating sun all day.
 
If you do some reading about Vinylex, you'll see that it does come with a very high SPF rating (sun protection) I believe its even higher than 303s. You can also buy a 3 liter jug of Vinylex for a very good price at certain websites. I like both products quite a bit, but I tend to prefer the satin shine from 303. Laters
 
31st: I was holding a bottle of vinylex on my hand the other day at Napa and it does mention UV protection on the bottle.

I will check my bottle at home again but unless Lexol changed the formula I believe it has UV protection capability.



But I just got a new bottle of Blackmagic semigloss dash protectant which has "Rated #1 on UV protection" printed as a selling point. $2 from pepboy clearence so can't hurt to try it. Reports from autopian said it gives an even lesser gloss than 303 but you have to apply a lot of that stuff...definitely a challange for Zaino user:D
 
I've met with the Lexol folks and they employ one of the inventors of silicone on their development staff. Needless to say, the silicone formula used in Vinylex is plenty safe for your car. As others have said, there are a huge number of silicone types out there and some are not well suited for automotive use. But there's no need to worry about what's in Vinylex. I prefer its gloss on the exterior but 303's gloss on the interior. So I say use both.
 
If you haven't tried Vinylex, don't let the idea that it is "glossier" deter you. Vinylex is NOT that glossy- it has maybe 20% more shine than 303. Both are excellent products. As you can see from my .sig, I use them both myself.
 
There are many different types of silicone oils and polymers, and gels, and all of them are not bad!! The ones you want to stay away from are the greasy slimy slingy forumulas. Vinylex and 303 are very safe to use on rubber trim and tires. It is also best to stay with a water based formula. Unlike solvent based ones, you will have to wipe twice though, but if you avoid dressings with solvents and dimethyl silicone oil you won't experience any rubber deterioration or browning. I like using 303 on my rubber and plastic trim. If you want something that lasts longer with a low sheen, try out zaino Z16.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by gti [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>But I just got a new bottle of Blackmagic semigloss dash protectant which has "Rated #1 on UV protection" printed as a selling point. $2 from pepboy clearence so can't hurt to try it. Reports from autopian said it gives an even lesser gloss than 303 but you have to apply a lot of that stuff...definitely a challange for Zaino user:D [/b]</blockquote>
gti, I've been using the stuff for over two years now on my VW dash and I like it a lot. Make sure you use a foam sponge applicators to apply it and that you get good coverage, like when you're staining a piece of wood (but not so much that it drips). Its water based so it has no body to spread, so basically you have to "paint" it on, if that makes sence. But its cheap and provides the protected stock look mentioned above. If anyone has a car that is not good enought for 303 (friends, family, the beater), then this is a low cost, effective over the counter alternative. :up
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by JasonC8301 [/i]
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Then the Armour All (heard they finally have ONE product with PDMS)

Jason [/b]</blockquote>

JasonC8301, would that be the new "interior" satin formula??
Just wondering because that's what I have, and I love the low gloss finish. It's also a milky white, which I heard was good...
 
Milky white, satin finish, sounds like PDMS to me.



I think thats the only AA product I would try, but not likely still got 1 and 1/2 L of Vinylex.



Jason
 
I use vinylex alot. great shine and great protection and great UV protection. It gets shinier with every coat so you really can control your shine well.



I would just say vinylex but 303 is also competitive i have heard
 
YoSteve:

Tried the Blackmagic semigloss yesterday. Wow....I like it better than Vinylex.

Less gloss and seems a bit less oily than Vinylex.



If it repel dust better I will do a carpet search in all of my local Pepboys:D

$2 a bottle is a steal. I regret I only get one when there was 3 in the store



And I did use my 4 inches wide foam paint brush to apply. I use the 1 inch wide brush to apply Z2 to the wood trim.

I use both regularly to clean the rim.

They are the best <$1 investment I have ever made.

Wish I could have traded startup company's stock with those:nixweiss
 
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