2008 Saturn - which polish?

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cwr64

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I have 2008 black Saturn Aura (35K miles) that I polished a couple of years ago, and which sits outdoors in the blistering Texas sun all the time. The polish is (I assume) gone and the paint has begun to degrade a bit on the hood, trunk-top, and the roof. I have an electric polisher and 3 Poor Boy`s liquids left over from before (from their sample kit), but the polish is near empty. The paint needs a bit more grit treatment than the Poor Boy`s polish. I would like to order a Poor Boy`s product to bring back the paint surfaces that I mentioned prior to applying the Poor Boy`s polish. What Poor Boy`s product should I use?
 
Welcome to the forum!

This is kind of a loaded question that you have asked. First, when you say the "polish is gone and the paint has begun to degrade a bit", you understand that a polish doesn`t provide any paint protection, right? Notwithstanding some companies (like Zaino and Duragloss) that call their paint protectants "polishes". So after you are done restoring the brilliance to your paint with whatever Poorboy`s polish we agree on, you will need to apply a Poorboy`s or other paint sealant or wax.

Since you have used the phrases "blistering Texas sun" and "degrade a bit", be aware that what you are seeing could be early clearcoat failure, in which case polishing may not help. With that being said, and since you appear to have a PB`s sampler kit which I presume contains SSR1, SSR2, and SSR3, why don`t you replace the (near empty) SSR1, and simply use the SSR2 before that. And follow that up with some EX-P sealant.

Of course, there are many other products out there, which you may find equal or better to the Poorboy`s products, some of which will undoubtedly be mentioned by subsequent posters.
 
What I have is the Poorboy`s World Sample Kit #6 which contains (none of them are marked SS-anything, btw) :
Poorboy`s Professional Polish (almost empty)
Poorboy`s EX-P Sealant (3/4 empty)
Poorboy`s Black Hole Show Glaze (2/3 empty)

I am not positive whether I should use the sealant or the Black Hole last. Do you know?

And I need a slightly more cutting liquid than the Professional Polish (which it says is non-abrasive) in order to do the top parts of the car.
So what Poorboy`s products should I buy to do my car - maybe twice.
 
The Black Hole glaze is used before the EX-P sealant.

Sounds like you want to buy SSR1 which is a very mild polish, and SSR2 as a backup in case the SSR1 doesn`t have enough cut. Of course, according to this chart, SSR1 has very minimal correction ability, although a tad more than the Pro Polish: https://www.autopia.org/forums/pain...-polish-comparison-chart.html?highlight=chart

There`s a lot of choices in polishes out there, a lot of very good ones. A lot of buzz the last few years about the Sonax and Griot`s Boss polishes, I haven`t used either of them yet.
 
cwr64 said:
The car is a beater but I don`t want it to go totally bad. Not looking for show quality at all. Don`t want to do this more than once per year.

Maybe after polish I should use this?: https://www.autopia-carcare.com/blackfire-pro-ceramic-coating.html
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I think you will be good with something like this with a quick one step polish and paint prep. Should get you around 9 months maintained properly.

https://www.autopia-carcare.com/gyeon-q2-cancoat.html#.Xc2BwVdKiUk

The other option is to continually use a spray on product throughout the year. There are quite a few silica spray sealants.
 
I`m surprised that nobody is suggesting the recently reviewed TW Ceramic Polish and Wax stuff that did so well in that extreme torture test. Seems like a decent one-step product with good lasting protection.

cwr64- Welcome to Autopia! Sorry, I can`t really make a definitive suggestion as I just don`t know what`s really going on with your paint. It`s very challenging to get, let alone keep, a black daily driver in nice condition, and I`d only consider a Coating if a vehicle is close to perfect.

Getting anything to last a full year under your conditions might be a big challenge, but that TW product I mentioned just might do it while being reasonably user-friendly.
 
Accumulator said:
I`m surprised that nobody is suggesting the recently reviewed TW Ceramic Polish and Wax stuff that did so well in that extreme torture test. Seems like a decent one-step product with good lasting protection.
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Maybe some of us haven`t absorbed those products into our consciousness yet :wacko:
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Maybe some of us haven`t absorbed those products into our consciousness yet :wacko:
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Heh heh, I`m a little surprised that *I* knew from that TW stuff! "New Posts"...never know what you`ll find, and/but I basically *NEVER* click on any kind of Detailing video, but I did on the one in that thread and, well..OK, sounds like it could be a viable choice for a lot of people. One-step that holds up to *Brake Fluid"?!? Color me impressed...for what it is ;)
 
So - would I first polish out my imperfect paint with a polishing liquid that has some ability to "cut" and then finish up with one of the TW coatings? If so, which coating should I use?
 
cwr64 said:
So - would I first polish out my imperfect paint with a polishing liquid that has some ability to "cut" and then finish up with one of the TW coatings? If so, which coating should I use?
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I hope somebody who knows more about Coatings (and the TW lineup) responds..but the Ceramic Polish and Wax apparently has some really good protection in it and works well all by itself. If you do the dreaded SEARCH you oughta find that thread and there`s something there about what to use afterwards if you want more protection...all I remember is that you oughta wait a day or so before doing the extra step (so I`d probably wait until after the next wash).
 
So - would I first polish out my imperfect paint with a polishing liquid that has some ability to "cut" and then finish up with one of the coatings? If so, which coating should I use?
I don`t care especially that I use a TW coating. It appears that there are several coatings available from different companies and that there are both professional level and cheaper coatings available for non-professionals like me. I would like someone experienced to tell me exactly what coating and polish I should buy. I would like to do the deed in no more than 2 steps (1-polish then 2-coating?) and then have it last for at least a year.
 
As mentioned you can use the new TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Polish & Wax and then follow up with the Hybrid Solutions Spray Coating. It’s cheap and the benefit of a spray coating is you can reapply it as often as you like. Affordable as well if price is a concern.

If you are looking for a couple other options. These will take a bit more work.

Gyeon Primer followed by Gyeon Prep followed by 2 coats of Gyeon CanCoat. Maintain with their spray sealant Cure or equivalent and you should see about 9 months to a year.

CarPro Essence followed by CarPro Eraser followed by 2 coats of cquartz lite. Maintain with CarPro Elixir and you should get 9 months to a year.
 
In this case I somehow suspect that approaches like the Gyeon and Carpro are geared towards different users/goals.

No, that`s not a slam as even I myself wouldn`t try to do my Dailies with those, let alone if they only last that long.

The Guz- I`m kinda surprised that the Gyeon and CarPro wouldn`t last any longer than that...gee, I`m [ticked] if my conventional approaches don`t last at least that long! But then again, I gather my vehicles are awfully pampered..
 
Too many factors need to be taken into account for durability regardless of the protection. Not too mention that these are not full fledged coatings yet they perform as one. I would gladly take either one over a polymer sealant.
 
The Guz- Ah, OK..see how little I know about these?!?

Are they as foolproof as the conventional approaches (which IMO are basically impossible to really botch up, very different from the OptiCoat I`ve used)? What makes they preferable to you over a good sealant? (Not arguing by any means, just curious what could possibly be better as I could barely discern any benefits from the OptiCoat other than not having to redo every year or so; the whole OptiCoat experience made me wonder why I bothered with it.)
 
Days ago, I requested online (from both their sales people and customer service) at Turtle Wax asking which product they recommended for the particulars of my car. I have been unable to get anyone at TW to respond with information.
 
cwr64 said:
Days ago, I requested online (from both their sales people and customer service) at Turtle Wax asking which product they recommended for the particulars of my car. I have been unable to get anyone at TW to respond with information.
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We did the homework for you. These are new to the market.

https://www.autogeek.net/hybrid-solutions-ceramic-polish-and-wax.html

https://www.autogeek.net/hybrid-solutions-ceramic-wax-coating-53409.html

Plenty of videos on them already. Check out Apex Detailing as he has already covered the polish and the spray coating.
 
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