#1 yellow vs #1 white/ivory carnauba

Good link, Boss!

I'm no chemist either, but that was my understanding of the differences.

Thanks,

Norah
 
So the ivory is the more pure of the two? I guess that makes it a better grade too? I have never really thought about it that much. This was a good thread and I have learned something today. :)
 
Ivory is more refined than yellow. Basically more of the impurities are removed from the Ivory Carnauba.
 
There was a post on another board about this exact subject. Rather than asking an appearance chemical manufacturer (who is admittedly biased, even me), look for info from the people who import the raw carnauba from Brazil and sell it to the wax manufacturers.

http://www.relship.com/carnauba.html

http://www.pvp.com.br:80/carnauba_wax.htm

http://www.strahlpitsch.com:80/spcarnau.htm

http://www.calwax.com:80/Products/Natural/Carnauba.asp

http://www.multiceras.com:80/applications/carnauba.htm


I didn't see any reference to ivory carnauba in any of these sites.
 
forrest said:
There was a post on another board about this exact subject. Rather than asking an appearance chemical manufacturer (who is admittedly biased, even me), look for info from the people who import the raw carnauba from Brazil and sell it to the wax manufacturers.

http://www.relship.com/carnauba.html

http://www.pvp.com.br:80/carnauba_wax.htm

http://www.strahlpitsch.com:80/spcarnau.htm

http://www.calwax.com:80/Products/Natural/Carnauba.asp

http://www.multiceras.com:80/applications/carnauba.htm


I didn't see any reference to ivory carnauba in any of these sites.
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forest,

Good point! I don't think one can necessarily assume that white/ivory carnauba is better than yellow caranuba. As a matter of fact, my understanding from one manufacturer is that yellow caranuaba is "bleeched" to make it white carnauba and clean out the impurities. I'm not sure if that's true, or not, that's just what I was told.
 
Boss,

Perhaps by "bleeched" they are referrring to the second "refining" step that Pinnacle claims? If that is the case, I would think that it would be "purer" than yellow - but what do I know - I grew up on Turtle Wax!?!!

Norah
 
Norah,

Yea, I would guess that the "bleeching" step is the "refining" step, if indeed that is what it used? Again, it was only something I was told by another manufacturer............... and one that "doesn't" sell ivory carnauba. The point is................ grade 1 ivory (refined) carnauba may, or may not be better than grade 1 yellow carnabua.
 
brwill2004 said:
Ivory is more refined than yellow. Basically more of the impurities are removed from the Ivory Carnauba.
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So is Ivory the better grade then? Kind of sounds like it to me from the statement below from pinnacle:

"We start with #1 Grade Yellow Carnauba, then refine it a second time. This changes the wax's pale yellow color to ivory as the last remaining impurities are removed. The result is Ivory Carnauba, a super-pure wax with unsurpassed clarity. We use only Ivory Carnauba as a foundation for all our waxes."
 
A lot of people think that Trade Secret is the best carnauba. It is "greenish" in color. Maybe "green" carnauba is the best? :dunno :D
 
Boss_429 said:
A lot of people think that Trade Secret is the best carnauba. It is "greenish" in color. Maybe "green" carnauba is the best? :dunno :D
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yep nothing like 'green' carnauba, yellow is so passe':lmfao
 
Is the green carnauba a merging of yellow and blue carnauba? Yellow and blue make green! - An old Ziploc commercial.

Actually, the color of the actually product itself can easily be altered by colored dyes, so don't use that as any measurement.
 
Again, I think it's marketing buzz talking. Remember, it's a wax manufacturer making these claims (and yes, I'm one, too, so take it with a grain of salt). Changing the color from yellow to white does not make the carnauba any better. I'm not sure what they're removing by "refining it a second time". It sounds to me like they're removing the color, which would be bleaching.

The carnauba manufacturers have graded it as #1, which is the purest grade possible. I don't think there are any impurities left to remove, so it sounds to me like a marketing process, not a product improvement process. If it was #1 before, and #1 afterwards, the quality is the same. They're only changed the color.

But, hey, rather than everyone get in an uproar about some minor point like this, just use the product YOU think is the best.
 
forrest said:
But, hey, rather than everyone get in an uproar about some minor point like this, just use the product YOU think is the best.
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forest,

No uproar, I think we are just having a little fun with it now. :D

I believe your point about about the grading sums it up nicely!
 
Fun, man this is the internet. There's no time for fun. This is serious stuff. The fate of the free world could be teetering on what color carnauba is the best. I gotta know SOON, before that spaceship with the tractor beam lands in my backyard, because I read on the internet a certain color carnauba will protect me from it, but I can't remember the color, and I can't find the site, Google be damned. It must be a Bill Gates conspiracy (maybe he's an alien).....

Or maybe it's Al Gore, after all, he said he invented the internet.
 
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The aliens tried to beem the Whaler up once... Tried being the operative word :lmfao

I'm sorry Whaler, I just couldn't pass that one up!!
 
forrest said:
Fun, man this is the internet. There's no time for fun. This is serious stuff. The fate of the free world could be teetering on what color carnauba is the best. I gotta know SOON, before that spaceship with the tractor beam lands in my backyard, because I read on the internet a certain color carnauba will protect me from it, but I can't remember the color, and I can't find the site, Google be damned. It must be a Bill Gates conspiracy (maybe he's an alien).....

Or maybe it's Al Gore, after all, he said he invented the internet.
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There ya go! :rolling
 
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