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Oh, sorry. Yeah, it was a little redundant, but they did pick up Blackfire from CMA, which was kind of their Wolfgang line, and of course M37, which went off on its own. Some of the individual lines had an awful lot of similar products.

They changed Blackfire to more of a (commercial) car wash brand, but they still seem to sell most of the Blackfire products they did after the last revamp.

I don't think it has anything to do with you or me or whoever, Lonnie, I think a lot of occasional users who came here when the forum was down figured it was gone for good and haven't come back...yet. Plus it's not detailing season, although there hasn't been as much seasonality on the forums...

Of course it's downsizing, I took umbrage at your "bloated organization" comment. How many employees did Autogeek have at its peak? 20? Maybe they have a few more now with the combined warehouse, but I'm not sure how that could be considered "bloated".

This is the guy to ask: https://autogeekonline.net/threads/new-old-project-truck-2000-silverado.125504/page-3#post-1785072

Yes, Eco Wash seems very reasonably priced, one of these years I may try it.

What are you talking about?

Nate...are you talking to yourself?

After I posted this thread I bought some more of the McKee's 37 Foaming Wheel Cleaner Gel, and as soon as I opened the box I knew it wasn't the same as the old round, black-bottle stuff I had bought years ago, it's now got the hair-perm stink. I emailed Nick about it and he said the formula...

I mentioned this product in this thread: https://www.autopia.org/threads/stoner-car-care.193333/ I'm really loving this product--the full name is Stoner Decon Prep Iron Remover and Wheel Cleaner--Patented Odorless Decontaminant. This seems like a joy to use after years of using hair-perm...

Bob!

Well, this is confusing. As the OP noted, the Autopia-CarCare.com store seems to be gone, if you go there it redirects you to Autogeek.net. The OP got his ACC rewards points etc. transferred over. So yesterday I got an email from...Autopia-CarCare.com. They were congratulating me on earning...

I have been hearing good things about Eco Wash...did it stain your wash media? Just to clarify, some people think when I ask if a rinseless stains the wash media, they think I am talking about the product itself doing the staining. I'm talking about the rinseless causing the dirt to cling to...

Well, I guess we gotta shake it up then.

PBMG went through all that work to update the forum software so that everything works better...and now no one is posting!

They might have room for a C & C, but I'm not sure Vision has the room for a big event like Detail Fest. If you remember what killed Detail Fest was when they built a building on the vacant lot next door, which had been used for parking and I think the car show. After that they moved Detail...

IMO Vision bought PBMG to enhance the distribution of Sonax, probably didn't work out exactly as expected. This is a new facility...I guess you could call it a consolidation. I'm sure inside the building they are all just Vision employees, I don't expect there is any stratification between...

The Pirate is back!

Outstanding...sounds like PBMG is getting things back on track after all that disruption.

I'd say definitely the UV, but the heat can't help.