Who's "they"?
$15.00 minimum wage - thoughts?
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Who's "they"?
trashmanssd
New member
they = them ,the other ones, those people, that guy, that lady, Someone , everyone, anyone, He, She, Her, Him, Yourself, Myself, you, me...............
:lmfao
they
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pronoun
pronoun: they
1.
used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned or easily identified.
"the two men could get life sentences if they are convicted"
people in general.
"the rest, as they say, is history"
informal
a group of people in authority regarded collectively.
"they cut my water off"
2.
used to refer to a person of unspecified sex.
"ask someone if they could help"
0inDetail0
New member
I worked for a large Pharma company for 5 years before getting laid off and we used to print pay stubs for employees. I happened to catch what the CEO made. $23,000 +take home a week. On top of that stock options, yearly bonus, private chef, full kitchen and full bath with a jacuzzi, company limo and driver 24/7 access and private jet.
If that is not excessive then we live in a messed up country.
The job he did is just as important then what I did. Seriously you can't drive yourself to work and make your own lunch
If that is not excessive then we live in a messed up country.
The job he did is just as important then what I did. Seriously you can't drive yourself to work and make your own lunch
JHL88
New member
:USA
Do we really have to spell it out for you? Im sure you know what he meant.
What's really sad is IF this happens people starting off at Mcdonalds, BK, Taco Bell etc. will get paid considerably more than a single E-1, E-2 & E-3 who has just enlisted in the military...
Don't you just love it?
tedj101
New member
Again, another example of the "Me Generation" wanting something for nothing... Their theme song - " I Me Mine "(The Beatles )
It is sad...
And where, pray tell, do they think the extra wages are going to come from ? Do they still believe that the Bank "Gives" you money everytime you go there and put the card into the reader??
Did they miss that part of the Econ class in High School ?? Did they go to High School ?
I can tell you that when I was young enough to even qualify for minimum wage, it was just a little over $2.00/hour, and guess what - no one was protesting/demonstrating/hating/etc...
I just put my head down, (as well as everyone else), worked hard, learned much, worked harder, studied hard, figured out ways to make the job easier by becoming more efficient (innovation), was never late, never tired after the weekend, and demonstrated leadership,, honesty, and integrity...
In time, my superiors recognized this and we were promoted and given more responsibility...
Wouldnt it be nice someday to see stories of people who came up with virtually nothing, and worked hard without complaining, whining, and basically being jack a$$, got an education along the way, and then saw themselves promoted - because of their good hard work - into very high levels of business ???
How come we dont ever see those stories ???
Instead we have to see people sitting on the ground holding signs, and chanting something about GIVING them something they have not EARNED....
OK, I need to go outside now and kick the trashcan or something...
Dan F
You must be a youngster. It was $.75 when I started working - and I didn't get it. I was paid $.50/hr. (I was pretty young, though...)
PA DETAILER
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Indeed. And people cant put food on the table now. 23K a week? Absurd.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Not in all cases. You just keep regurgitating the same garbage
Ronkh
Wax Waster
I am truly sorry for your situation, it's gotta be tough.
Every job is important. That said, responsibility is the differentiating point here. The ceo, is responsible for millions of dollars in and millions of dollars out. As well as responsible to the stock holders, employees and patients/recipiants of the meds the company produces.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
Record 92,269,000 Not in Labor Force; Participation Rate Matches 36-Year Low | CNS News
A record 92,269,000 Americans 16 and older did not participate in the labor force in August, as the labor force participation rate matched a 36-year low of 62.8 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
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White Unemployment 5.3% -- Black Unemployment 11.4% | CNS News
While unemployment nationwide is 6.1%, the unemployment rate for black Americans at 11.4% is more than double the rate for white Americans, who have an unemployment rate of 5.3%, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).
Yep, we need a higher minimum wage
A record 92,269,000 Americans 16 and older did not participate in the labor force in August, as the labor force participation rate matched a 36-year low of 62.8 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
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White Unemployment 5.3% -- Black Unemployment 11.4% | CNS News
While unemployment nationwide is 6.1%, the unemployment rate for black Americans at 11.4% is more than double the rate for white Americans, who have an unemployment rate of 5.3%, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).
Yep, we need a higher minimum wage
The Driver
Detailers Workshop
If you want more, work for it. There are plenty of jobs an nepotism to go around. If you cant find a job, you need to work on your social skills first.
My family came from nothing, they never complained. As my grand father used to say, quit whining and just do it. Excuses are for those who have no mental backbone.
My family came from nothing, they never complained. As my grand father used to say, quit whining and just do it. Excuses are for those who have no mental backbone.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
But we must be more sensitive to those without the mental backbone. Just like giving every kid in softball (insert sport of choice) a trophy. They're all winners.
But I tried my best............................ (insert quote from movie "The Rock)
512detail
New member
lol, my dad used to make me throw away anything that wasn't third place or better. It didn't make much sense to me as a young child, but later on I realized what he was trying to do.
Basic flow chart that society as a whole seems to have forgotten about (or at least a largely growing cohort has)
Competition -> Innovation -> Achievement
*implicit in here lies no sense of entitlement, just work ethic and the will to better ones self.
Innovation can also be by means of deviant behavior (Robert K. Merton) such as selling drugs, other crime, etc. A lot of people chose this route due to whatever reason they want to claim. Maybe they got tired of minimum wage (or felt they were above a 'remedial' job) and didn't have the drive to better themselves through hard work, and chose the easy way out, who knows.
So yea there is this whole idea of Life Chances (Max Weber) , but still, anyone has the opportunity to at least improve their situation if they want it badly enough.
You can make an excuse for Anything, just listen to a politician speak, or think of that friend everyone probbly has that's always complaining about everything and making excuses for his/her misfortunes. You know we all have at least one. But who has the friend who finally stopped complaining, making excuses, and got off their butt and did something to make their lives better...because if you have had that friend, I'd bet you enjoyed seeing that change.
Anyways, I am not against someone making 15/hr for flipping burgers or whatever, but they had better be dang good at doing that job. I guess I'm just too much of a structural functionalist at heart and feel that task specialization is a very overlooked aspect of an industrially advanced nation/society. Should it be the minimum, HECK NO! I would even argue that a standardized minimum wage is unfair and those workers who perform poorly should potentially be paid less.
I really think the people who are protesting for this increased minimum wage should divert that energy towards a more productive protest (granted they could idealize such a different protest). I was given a whole lot growing up, didn't appreciate any of it. I didn't start to appreciate anything until I had to work my butt off to keep it or earn it. So maybe at 30 I'm 'old school', but I'd like to think that's how it should be.
Entitlement is the killer of all things productive.
as someone already said (and I really liked)
We are all doomed.
End Rant
Such as? Wait, so you don't believe our country has a growing wealth inequality problem? You'd also rather keep forking taxes over to low-wage earners, rather than insisting that perhaps something be done to "help encourage" employers pay them a wage they can afford?
K.
Yeah, actually you do, hence my asking the question. Please go ahead and spell it out for me if you would.
Apparently that question went right over your head.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
We don't have a wealth inequality problem. We have an entitlement problem.
It seems as that you are angry at people who make more $$ than you. Simple. May I suggest that the government is not there to make the $$$ equal. Just the playing field, so everybody has an equal chance.
Wealth redistribution only works in xxxxx tales
What makes you think I'm angry at people who make more than me?
I never said anything about wealth redistribution.
So, it seems we're in agreement possibly more than we both realize. (In regards to your comment about leveling the playing field).
There's no question that life isn't fair, nor are we all dealt equal hands, with fair players and dealers among us. All I'm trying to get it is that MAYBE we have a wealth inequality problem getting out of hand that we should look at, and maybe it isn't as simple as low-wage earners being low-lifes with no initiative. IDK, I could be completely wrong in all of this. I don't like freeloaders or people who abuse the system anymore than you (or others in this thread).
The middle class is shrinking, the divide between rich and poor is growing, and it's getting harder and harder for the average person to jump to the next social class. I think it's an issue that needs to be dealt with.
Ronkh
Wax Waster
So what do you think needs to be done. More laws/regulations?
You can't tax or regulate someone into prosperity.
People need to stop feeling/acting victimized, get pissed and decide they want their share and figure out the way to get it (hopefully legal and ethically).
Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime.
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
I agree education is the key. The question is how do we help those that are not quite young anymore that had jobs that went offshore as companies chase profits. An educated workforce will help America the country - something corporate America is not focused on that wants low cost labor no matter where it is.
I do not agree that all minimum/lower wage workers and those on welfare are losers and no loads. I know well to do no loads and losers. They just have more money to waste. Some did actually earn it but many had a lot of help.