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Setec Astronomy

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Last year here in NJ we kind of skated on winter, had a moderate snow storm in Nov. I think and not much after that.

We`re looking at 11-16" starting this afternoon, maybe a little more in the morning, according to the NWS. Hopefully it`s not going to be one of those winters where it does this every week and stays cold and never melts, and it`s piled up 4` high everywhere. It`s supposed to be cold next few days here, so no free lunch on this one melting fast.

I know this sounds like whining to you guys in Green Bay and Minnesota.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Last year here in NJ we kind of skated on winter, had a moderate snow storm in Nov. I think and not much after that.

We`re looking at 11-16" starting this afternoon, maybe a little more in the morning, according to the NWS. Hopefully it`s not going to be one of those winters where it does this every week and stays cold and never melts, and it`s piled up 4` high everywhere. It`s supposed to be cold next few days here, so no free lunch on this one melting fast.

I know this sounds like whining to you guys in Green Bay and Minnesota.
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I’m desperate for decent snow this year in Pittsburgh area. Would like to show my son some sledding and snow forts. But the totals we’re expecting from Gail keep dropping since last night.
 
Not "whining", just jealous of those snowfall totals for this Nor`easter.A lot of business make their money from this "White gold", whether (pun intended!) it`s snow removal, skiing both XC and downhill, snowmobiling or lodges and restaurants that cater to those tourist/enthusiasts who engage in such activities.

I say snow removal because where else in the world do NFL football fans show up by the thousands to shovel out their stadium before a game after a major (more than 5") snowfall. Only in Green Bay WI at Lambeau Field! Yes, they get paid (I think it is $10.00 per hour). For many who are unemployed in the winter, this is their Christmas and bill-paying money, so it is a big-deal to those who need the work that is hard-to-find in the winter. Kind of a moot issue now with NO FANS IN THE STANDS due to the pandemic.
 
Lonnie said:
Not "whining", just jealous of those snowfall totals for this Nor`easter.A lot of business make their money from this "White gold", whether (pun intended!) it`s snow removal, skiing both XC and downhill, snowmobiling or lodges and restaurants that cater to those tourist/enthusiasts who engage in such activities.

I say snow removal because where else in the world do NFL football fans show up by the thousands to shovel out their stadium before a game after a major (more than 5") snowfall. Only in Green Bay WI at Lambeau Field! Yes, they get paid (I think it is $10.00 per hour). For many who are unemployed in the winter, this is their Christmas and bill-paying money, so it is a big-deal to those who need the work that is hard-to-find in the winter. Kind of a moot issue now with NO FANS IN THE STANDS due to the pandemic.
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Buffalo has done this as well, paying $12 an hour a few years ago (was needed too often lately) and free tickets for ‘volunteer’ shovelers.
 
acuRAS82 said:
I’m desperate for decent snow this year in Pittsburgh area. Would like to show my son some sledding and snow forts. But the totals we’re expecting from Gail keep dropping since last night.
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Ohhhh....sledding! I wonder if I can still find that scar on my leg...
 
12" - 15" predicted for us. The weather people seem to be focused on this range, possibly a bit more in the jackpot zones.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Ohhhh....sledding! I wonder if I can still find that scar on my leg...
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Don`t laugh Setec: I almost got killed sledding! When I was 9-years old, my younger brother and I were "competing" with the neighbor kids who could go the fastest down my uncle`s ice-covered slightly inclined driveway across the road from my house. I was driving the sled (Red Arrow Racer?) and my younger brother was pushing behind. At the end of the driveway were lilac bushes and a large cedar tree next to the barnyard fence (my uncle was a dairy farmer on my Dad`s family farm they grew up on). My brother JUST happened to catch a car coming down the road out of the corner of his eye and he stopped pushing and rolled me over off the sled! I was madder than heck, until the neighbor kids went by and ran under the back gas tank of the oncoming car. The car tried to stop and when driver realized he could not, veered and lost control, hitting the cedar. The neighbor kid bumped and badly scratched his forehead on the gas tank near the rear bumper of the Blue and white `63 Oldsmobile Delta 88; that`s it. Could have been MUCH worse for the neighbor kid on the sled and his brother who was pushing. Lucky or guardian angel; you decide.

Years before that "incident" I was 5-years old when I went down a large, steep ice-covered hill on an aluminum metal coaster. (remember those things that looked like a large concave dish or flying saucer?) on a Saturday night just before Valentine`s Day. Needless to say, it was impossible to "steer" those things and you just went along for the ride; forwards, backwards, or sideways. I hit a bump at "high speed", rolled off face-first into the crusty ice-snow and cut my face up pretty badly. I do remember feeling the warm blood running down my face and seeing "red" in the car headlights that were being used to illuminate the hill and crying, "I`m bleeding".
My Mom used snow to wash my face off and wrapped my head with her scarf as a makeshift bandage. It hurt even more when she took it off sometime later at church member`s house we had gathered at to eat hot chili and drink cocoa, as the blood had coagulated on it. My face looked pretty gruesome. When I went to school on Monday, my kindergarten teacher said my face looked like it was "decorated" with a red lace doily from a Valentine`s Day card. (THAT would explain a lot of things why you are as you are, Captain Obvious!)
 
I miss coming in here to see how Ron would make jabs at you snow folks, in that kind heart way, then post a picture of his immaculate Vette next to palm trees.
 
acuRAS82 said:
I’m desperate for decent snow this year in Pittsburgh area. Would like to show my son some sledding and snow forts. But the totals we’re expecting from Gail keep dropping since last night.
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I`m with you too. This winter has been tropical compared to last year. By this point last winter I was starting to seriously consider buying a snow blower. This year, we got our first snow last night and it didn`t even cover the grass!

What really ticks me off is my daughter and her husband who quite a ways south of us got 7~8 inches this week and my youngest who lives due west got snow at school in October. Here? Nothing but drab cold and gray skies.

Give me the snow and lots of it! I didn`t put winter tires on my car for no good reason!
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Last year here in NJ we kind of skated on winter, had a moderate snow storm in Nov. I think and not much after that.

We`re looking at 11-16" starting this afternoon, maybe a little more in the morning, according to the NWS. Hopefully it`s not going to be one of those winters where it does this every week and stays cold and never melts, and it`s piled up 4` high everywhere. It`s supposed to be cold next few days here, so no free lunch on this one melting fast.

I know this sounds like whining to you guys in Green Bay and Minnesota.
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Way on down here in Southern NJ we`re just getting the rain and wind....which I guess is okay too
 
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Getting the big one as i type. Possibly 12" Trip to work is going to suck.
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Hey, I drove to work on a Sunday night after the infamous Snow Bowl game on December 01, 1985 between the GB Packers and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
That game saw 16" of snow and the highest ticketed fan "no-shows" for a Packer game (37,000 est) at Lambeau Field. Packers won 21-0 and the chartered flight for the Bucs was the ONLY flight to leave GB that day, with much angst by the flight crew.
I was fortunate enough to have an `83 Subaru GL wagon that had an on-demand 2-range Hi-Low 4WD (otherwise it was Front-Wheel Drive) with a 4-speed manual transmission. I was not intending to go , but decided to take a "reconnaissance" drive to see how bad it really was. I made it about 3 miles from my house without getting stuck on county roads, to get out to the main State Highway 22, and then US 141 to head south to Green Bay. On the main highway I ran in 3rd gear on the 4-speed manual transmission in LO 4WD range all the way to Green Bay (about 20-30 MPH) and a tach that said 3,200 -3,800 RPM`s; high enough for a low-RPM running Subby H4 engine. It was 34-mile one-way total trip
I saw several cars stuck on the side and only 6 cars or trucks actually moving, 2 of them being the State Patrol to respond to stranded motorist.
I did get stuck in the company parking lot entrance because it was plowed shut (tried to bulldoze my way through; not a good idea with a small Subaru), only to find out that my night work shift had been canceled, but I was there, so I did my work as an engineering CAD Technician. One other person showed up. He walked to work from a near-by apartment complex. The next morning when my shift ended, some of the next shift of engineering office personnel did show up and were amazed I even came in. Had it not been for the Subaru with its on-demand 4WD, and my younger-day "stupidity" for a winter driving adventure and not wanting to miss a day of work and its pay, I would not have. (Another title for Captain Obvious: storyteller.)

Long-story short: find out BEFORE you leave if your work-place is even open. Now if you are a snow-plow driver, medical emergency personnel, fireman or police officer, TV media or national weather-service weatherperson, or US Postal Service Delivery Mail-person, that`s not applicable.
 
LOL you guys sound like a bunch of wimps lol...I am sitting on my Lani drinking a Pina Colada yummy in sunny Fl...it was cold this morning 50*...LOL
 
During the few decent snow falls in Pittsburgh the last few years, neighbors know me as ‘guy who shovels the driveway in Buffalo Bills t-shirt’. This is different than my spring through fall nickname: ‘guy who washes 1-3 cars daily’.
 
We got roughly 8" overall between Wednesday afternoon into Thursday morning. It was a scheduled work night for me (9pm to 7am) so I went to work. I filled the truck up the night before (even though it had a little under 1/2 a tank which is plenty to get there and back, never can be too careful!) and loaded extra boots, gloves, etc. into it. Roads had been plowed once, but had a nice packed layer of snow, which actually I prefer over slush. I probably didn`t even need 4wd to get up the mountain, but hey I used it! It might be a little old, a little rusty underneath, but the Tacoma just trugged on like nothing! It was a tank, although I did have some sand bags in the rear for extra weight. Even though the truck seemed confident I still never went over 25-35mph. That`s where people screw up! I left way early so I had plenty of time, no need to rush. Don`t know why people can`t plan that. Still got to work an hour early; alot of my coworkers were surprised I was there. The one manager said "Well if Adam shows up, none of you have an excuse!" So apparently we`re gonna judge snowstorms by if I come to work or not :lol:

Also I found out nobody test out to see if their 4WD works before a snow storm. A coworker/friend bought an older Dodge Ram earlier on this year and found out that night that the electronic 4WD would not engage. I would think you woulda tested that out months before Winter, but I guess I`m an oddball? All fluids (engine, transfer case, front and rear diffs) in my truck get checked and replaced regularly. A bottle of synthetic gear oil is cheap and easy to do. People amaze me sometimes...
 
Well, we only wound up with 7" here. My only complaint is the town plow came by I think 3 times after I cleared my driveway to the street, so I had to keep going back and clearing it again.
 
I see in the newspaper that weather climatologist are trying to figure out if these Nor`esters will be more common or more sever due to Global Warming and Climate change. I will "argue" that weather is a cyclical patterned natural phenomena. Do humans and what they do have an effect on climate? Yes, to some degree (pun intended!). BUT, what weather cycle are we in and how long is that cycle?
The Dust Bowl days and drought of the 1930`s, were they attributed to a Global Warming event? The Dust Bowl part was human-induced from poor farming and plowing techniques in the plains, but the lack of rain was a weather-related cyclical event.
I do know from my almost 65-years of life on this earth in Wisconsin that we are, indeed, in a warming cycle. The number of animal and insects that have migrated north due to the warmer winter temps is an indication of that. We NEVER saw an opossum in Northeast Wisconsin as a kid in the late 50`s and 60`s. Now they proliferate the wildlife scene. Japanese lady bugs and emerald ash bores, while considered invasive, would have never survived the long stretches of days in the winter of sub-zero Fahrenheit temps that were so common EVERY winter.
It was so cold, Lake Michigan almost froze over in the winter of 1977-78 and again in 1978-79.
As a young kid, I remember snow banks along country roads up to the telephone wires (Land-line days only back then). Seems like we always had 4 or 5 days of no-school due to a snowstorm, and more than once being let out early so the school buses did not get stuck from an impending snow storm. Those were the days of 6 or more inches of snow. I should know because I had to shovel it; no snowblower in my family. I was the "Ahrens" snowblower. True story, I asked Santa for an aluminum shovel when I was almost 9-years old for Christmas in 1964. The picture of it still wrapped with me in a GB Packer sweatshirt (Lombardi glory days) holding it is part of a wall collage of pics of myself and my wife through the years before we knew each other.
Needless to say, recent winters in Wisconsin seem to be more mild, and this El Nino year has brought unusually "warmer than normal" temps, even into December. I`ve cleaned two cars in 45°F outdoors recently, something I have never done this late in the year. A light snow last week is all but gone. It looks surreal for a Wisconsin landscape just before Christmas time.
What I have also learned is how Mother-nature balances herself out. We will pay for this nice weather and no snow later, if not sooner (recent forecast says snow and cold will arrive Christmas eve!). It always happens. Like I said, weather is cyclical. You just have to understand which cycle you are in.
 
Reviving this weather thread, just cause.
Snowing here, started lastnight and they say will end tomorrow late afternoon. When all done should be 40cm down. Now not complaining after what Buffalo got last month, just saying this snow is wet and HEAVY. Temp is around the 0 mark (32) so it produced a thick snow. Winter never goes as fast as the summer does...
 
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