IDA - International Detailing Association
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Mike lambert
New member
You probably should go on the AG site and ask Mr. Phillips. He’s in with them.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I am looking for input from members who are detailers, not sponsors.
RaskyR1
Rasky's Auto Detailing
I`ve always said that if and when the day comes a client asks me if I`m IDA certified is the day I`ll consider looking into IDA certification.
Stokdgs
dansautodetailing.com
No Truer or Wiser words were ever spoken !!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
My sentiments exactly !!
Dan F
Ron Ketcham
Active member
IDA is not about how much more money can be made this month. IDA is not about who has the biggest ego.
IDA is a world wide organization creating a positive image in the public`s mind--that takes time-years of dedication of thousands and big funding. It works with it`s members,developing and conducting training courses, business classes, etc, just the same as ASE, I-CAR, International Carwash Assoc.
In 1989, a large group of us attempted to start such, the PDA, but due to lack of funds, we failed , then there were two more well intended additional startups, which failed quickly---main reason, people joined for selfish,personal reasons rather than the "long term goals" required to build and gain public acceptance of standards and ethics.IDA has survived and grown to having chapters around the world, has been acknowledged by other established automotive service organizations. If you would only join for immediate personal gain, are not willing to donate time and efforts to continue the huge growth of IDA, ---it is not for you!
IDA is a world wide organization creating a positive image in the public`s mind--that takes time-years of dedication of thousands and big funding. It works with it`s members,developing and conducting training courses, business classes, etc, just the same as ASE, I-CAR, International Carwash Assoc.
In 1989, a large group of us attempted to start such, the PDA, but due to lack of funds, we failed , then there were two more well intended additional startups, which failed quickly---main reason, people joined for selfish,personal reasons rather than the "long term goals" required to build and gain public acceptance of standards and ethics.IDA has survived and grown to having chapters around the world, has been acknowledged by other established automotive service organizations. If you would only join for immediate personal gain, are not willing to donate time and efforts to continue the huge growth of IDA, ---it is not for you!
Do members get a copy of the annual report showing what money came in and where it went?
I remember daddy telling me whenever someone says "it`s not about the money" what that really means is "IT`S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY" otherwise why mention it.
Ron Ketcham
Active member
All is covered by the membership committee to vetted applications.
dcjredline
New member
Someone seems pretty offended and serious about any perceived disrespect to the IDA. Geesh
Accumulator
Well-known member
Heh heh, well...I, OTOH, would`ve done a "like/thank" for Ron Ketcham`s post if I did such stuff! I have zero interest in, nor had any knowledge of, the IDA, but after Ketch`s post I formed a (positive) opinion of the group.
If I could look at their books for the past few years I might feel better about them. Until then I will definitely remain skeptical.
Is the IDA a non profit?
What is your role with them?
Mike lambert
New member
I was interested, but when I repaired several jobs done by a past president of the ida, I decided not to be associated with them.
Ron Ketcham
Active member
My, my, you certainly paint "everybody" with a big brush !!!
Over a thousand IDA members, around the world and according to you, all are not up to your standards??
Mike lambert
New member
That is certainly not what I said, and if you sir were that concerned about the quality of your membership, you would’ve pm’d me. But by the tone of your responses , you must not be that confident in your certification process.I have seen the written test and was not impressed. I have several shops in my area that are supposedly ida certified shops using your logo. Again we have repaired the work. Maybe my standards are a little above just car cleaning?
Billy Baldone
New member
I’m chiming in. I just became Skills Validated last month. I love the idea of the IDA, but the certification process is too easy. It needs to be more comprehensive to actually get your SV. I hope that changes going forward. I believe that Mike Phillips does not certify anyone that has no actual class time.
Mandatory class time`s a step in the right direction, but still leaves too much room IMHO. Detailing classes are typically a few days, or a week tops. You can`t learn enough in even a week to have enough skills to try and be a professional. Well unless you`ve been actively detailing for a good while. Nothing beats experience. And your idea could be a slippery slope. I know Mike would never do this, but other IDA skill assessment guys might say "oh, you want to be IDA? you need to take the class I offer 1st so I know you`re the real deal" In most areas there`s going to be no more than 1 person who will test you.
Certifications are next to meaningless to me, the worst mechanic that ever worked on my car was ASE. And I`ve known a bunch of MCE (Microsoft certification) who I wouldn`t recommend to anyone I know to let them do anything to their computers. Meanwhile I`m not MCE, but I`ve been on computers for 40 years and can do just about everything. The general public might know ASE, but they`re not going to know 99.9% of other acronyms. And if you have to explain to someone what an acronym badge on your shirt stands for, it shouldn`t matter enough for it to influence their decision.
Ron Ketcham
Active member
Retired for over 10 years. Back in 1989 was one of those who helped found the first organization--PDA.
Over the years, worked with, got to know very well many who are officers, etc in the IDA and all are very successful, honest, ethical people.
So, once in a while some request my sharing of the decades in the business with the organization.
Over the years, worked with, got to know very well many who are officers, etc in the IDA and all are very successful, honest, ethical people.
So, once in a while some request my sharing of the decades in the business with the organization.
Ron Ketcham
Active member
Billy Baldone
New member
I truly believe that in time, the IDA will be what it should be. Right now, it’s still getting it’s legs. Like anything, there are growing pains, and as long as they get addressed going forward, it will be fine. So far, I believe I have $600 invested to get to be SV certified. Not terrible by any stretch. The IDA seems to have a mantra of “how you can help the IDA” .... As a new member, who is finally after 10 years of doing this on side, going full time mobile. I’m not sure what I have to offer at this time. In the future I hope to be an active contributor to new people starting out like I am. Until then, I feel a bit better knowing there is a community I can reach out to any time I hit a roadblock.
Ron Ketcham
Active member
When or if you go to the IDA web site, there are the corporate sponsor who donate to IDA.
Many well known and respected detail manufacturers and distributors.
It costs them heavy dollars to show their support of IDA and it`s world wide mission.
Many well known and respected detail manufacturers and distributors.
It costs them heavy dollars to show their support of IDA and it`s world wide mission.