Gary Dean?

Accumulator said:
I've done business with Garry and IME he's a 100% stand-up guy. Period. Note that I sure don't say things like that lightly.

No, he and I don't agre about everything and yeah I can understand if somebody thinks his videos and/or self-promotion are cheesey. But I will absolutely continue to do business with him and also *recommend* that others consider his products.

I'm not a big fan of rinseless washing, but I do like IUDJ, so much so that it's rapidly replacing my QDs. The Beyond Infinity Sealant is OK, no complaints and so far it's always been Accumulator-proof. I'd rather buy his new Juice Boost (!!pricey stuff!!) instead now that he has that available.

Specific comment regarding his Garry Dean Wash Method- No, he's not the only person to use rinseless washes in that sort of manner, but I *will* give him props for, uhm....codifying the approach. Sorta like with Kevin Brown and his KBM with M105/M205. If somebody wants to put their personal stamp on [whatever] that somebody *else* thinks is intuitively obvious it's no skin off my nose. Ditto for charging for advice. Eh, I just can't get any more negative about such stuff than "gee, who cares?" and when the people coming under fire have been OK towards me, I figure the least I can do is offer a little support.
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I can tell you he is a stand up guy IMO. I went in to look at getting paint correction, he talked me out of spending the money. At the end of what I did have him do on the truck he asked how much he had quoted me. I told him how much I thought I remember him quoting me and he said "no, what I did would never cost that much" Long story short I was offer $100 more than he asked, and the guy said it was too much and corrected me on what he thought the quote was. How many people are that honest??
 
Technique and Knowledge are key to being a qualified detailer..or any other tradesman.

I'll bet Mike Phillips could use a HF against most of you using a Rupes and put your shine to shame.
 
POPPAJ said:
What happened to this guy? He was all over the place then POOF, he disappeared.
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Good question. Garry was a sponsor here at one time. In fact we gave him his very own sub-forum dedicated to his videos. Then, he just vanished. Reached out to him a couple times, but he never responded.
 
Mr. Gloss said:
Technique and Knowledge are key to being a qualified detailer..or any other tradesman.

I'll bet Mike Phillips could use a HF against most of you using a Rupes and put your shine to shame.
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How about you come down from way up there so I don't have to shout! I like how you just throw in random comments, from way up there...
 
Tools and products are one thing, but the hand that uses them is more important. I think too many new guys think they can just buy their way into being a good detailer
 
What's so hard about using a da? Is it the complex formula of using over-lapping movements, and varying pressures and speeds?
Don't over-complicate running a buffer just to try and legitamize something that doesn't need to be.
 
I think Gary makes some very good points and he is trying to educate people on how to get the most "bang for the buck". I own a PC 7424, a Flex 3401 and a couple of the HF DA's. I will have to say that i find myself more and more reaching for my HF over the other 2 machines. Now don't get me wrong; the Flex 3401 is in a different league when it comes to its correction ability and it is still my first choice for heavy defect removal. There are many times however when I only need light to moderate correction and these are the times I reach for my HF. It has plenty of power and is very user friendly.

I was somewhat skeptical when I first bought the machine and bought a back up in case my first one broke. Well my back up is still in the box. I have run the crap out of the first machine and it just keeps going and going. I have created some beautiful finishes with the HF. It finishes every bit as well as the 3401. Just don't knock the machine if you haven't actually tried it. Gary has no vested interest here by endorsing the HF machine. In fact it would be a detriment to his reputation and business if he endorsed something that turned out to be a piece of junk.
 
There used to be a guy on here that posted about methods and processes of detailing. I think his point was if you know the HOW of detailing it doesn't matter if you use over the counter products or boutique brands. You know how to get the job done.
 
Accumulator said:
I've done business with Garry and IME he's a 100% stand-up guy. Period. Note that I sure don't say things like that lightly.

No, he and I don't agre about everything and yeah I can understand if somebody thinks his videos and/or self-promotion are cheesey. But I will absolutely continue to do business with him and also *recommend* that others consider his products.

I'm not a big fan of rinseless washing, but I do like IUDJ, so much so that it's rapidly replacing my QDs. The Beyond Infinity Sealant is OK, no complaints and so far it's always been Accumulator-proof. I'd rather buy his new Juice Boost (!!pricey stuff!!) instead now that he has that available.

Specific comment regarding his Garry Dean Wash Method- No, he's not the only person to use rinseless washes in that sort of manner, but I *will* give him props for, uhm....codifying the approach. Sorta like with Kevin Brown and his KBM with M105/M205. If somebody wants to put their personal stamp on [whatever] that somebody *else* thinks is intuitively obvious it's no skin off my nose. Ditto for charging for advice. Eh, I just can't get any more negative about such stuff than "gee, who cares?" and when the people coming under fire have been OK towards me, I figure the least I can do is offer a little support.
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Your approval is good enough for me. Some interesting products for sure. Is it spring yet?
 
What's so hard about cutting grass too? But, every year I have friends that pick up slightly used professional equipment at dirt cheap prices cause somebody thought they could cut grass and make a lot of money.
I've seen a few "detailers" in my area start out big and flashy and then crash & burn.
Now notice I'm referring to the guy that does this for a living, not the part-timer or keeper of the show car.
 
I have a friend who started a lawn business..
I have always liked installing lawns from seed, all the sprinklers, underground pipes, valves, etc., so I helped him get started because he knew not much about this field.
He eventually got a business started and kept at it for a long time.
Once I did his route for a week while he took some time off.
Holy Cow ! That is a lot of hard work when you are doing a bunch of these lawns every day.
You have to be very deliberate, fast, and able to do everything with one pass..
Heck of a hard way to make money unless you can grow it big enough to have commercial accounts..
Then the hardest part is the accounting, equipment maintenance at a much larger scale, managing lots of people, workman's comp, insurance, etc...

Whenever I think that Detailing for a living is really hard, I think back to that year that I worked with this good friend and am so glad that I didnt get crazy and want to partner up with him on this.. :)
Dan F
 
Ah the "easy" money in lawn care! And the crew that drops and joins another guy for a nickel more a hour or the old customers that drop because Bubba next door needs beer money and will cut it for 5 bucks less. The Feds checking every little thing you do and ups and downs of the whole petro chemical biz.
I'll stick to doing a few details on the weekend and tip my hat to all the guys/gals that live the dream full time.
 
Junebug said:
Ah the "easy" money in lawn care! And the crew that drops and joins another guy for a nickel more a hour or the old customers that drop because Bubba next door needs beer money and will cut it for 5 bucks less. The Feds checking every little thing you do and ups and downs of the whole petro chemical biz.
I'll stick to doing a few details on the weekend and tip my hat to all the guys/gals that live the dream full time.
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What until you retire. You'll have to create ways to keep the government from taxing your pension and social security out of your hands.
 
Regarding the HF polisher, his quote to me was "it's a beast and it's $50". I already had my GG6, so I didn't go for it, but I thought it showed balls for a known detailer to recommend the lowest priced rig out there. He also recommended B&S pads to me, and he was right. And you know ... He never once mentioned his products or tried to sell me anything. Cool beans in my book.
 
Retire? I doubt I could get anything with the social security IOU's! No, I hope to make moonshine in the woods and act like a crazy old hermit if I get caught.
 
...and I believe drunk in that video. Are his products just relabeled Premium Finish Care/Ultima? I know he was big with their stuff before and they also do private labeling
 
Wow, not a good look. On the other hand IUDJ is may favorite rinseless product. As Herm Edwards said, "Dont press Send"
 
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