Collinite questions and official answer

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davidc

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I had some questions regarding Collinite products, so I went to the source.

Questions:
I have used sealants ie. Zaino, Duragloss for a lot of years as Carnuba products have not lasted very long especially in the Phoenix area where ambient temps can range from 110-120. Sheet metal can range from 140-180. With all the rave reviews I decided to try your products. I completely cleaned the paint on my Wife's van that is a Desert Sand color and applied 3 coats of 845. I am working on the Gel Coat RV and applying 925, and have also purchased 920. The gel Coat is prestine at this time as I have already done the 3M Super Duty and Duragloss treatment, I am doing the 925 over DG sealants in hopes of warding away the typical oxidation. I have just ordered 476 and 885 to try those also. The main question I have is that I use Duragloss 932 with Aqua Wax which is a rinseless wash and adds sealant. Will this in any way affect your products if I continue doing this instead of a traditional wash. Can I add 476 and 885 over 845 and 925 with ou t compromising durability.

Thank you for your time and so far using only the 845 and 925 they appear to be excellent products and I will test the durability in the Desert as it is already in the 90's and will only go up. The monsoons here start around mid July and end some time in September with dust, rain and then the Sun. It will make for a good torture test. I really hope all of this Collinite hype is real as I would truly like it to succeed.

Dave
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Answer:
Dave,

Thanks for the email. The rinseless wash should not affect the durability of the wax and adding the paste wax over the liquid wont compromise durability. Please let me know how the waxes hold up in your conditions and thanks for using Collinite.


-Mark

I know you guys use Collinite to ward off the winter salt. sand and brine. I am going to give it a try with the other extreme. I will try this coming weekend to 476 the hood, roof and rear hatch of the van and time permitting maybe the rest. I will also attempt 885 on the back of the RV, the Drivers side was just 925ed.
 
Collinite people and products are top notch. They don't keep a high forum presense, opting instead to let word-of-mouth carry the products.

You seem to be using a lot of products. I think the 476 and one of the cleaners is all you need.
 
We use Collinite 476s, it is amazing, not just for a carnauba wax, it outperforms a lot of sealants, punches well above its weight class.
 
WaxAddict said:
Collinite people and products are top notch. They don't keep a high forum presense, opting instead to let word-of-mouth carry the products.

You seem to be using a lot of products. I think the 476 and one of the cleaners is all you need.
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Testing and keeping paint seperate from Fiberglass. The 845 and 925 went on and off easily I will try the paste and see if my shoulders hold up. I remember when I was a young lad and using Simonize past wax, it was a killer at 17. I hope the 476 and 885 is easier. I have learned the thin,thin,thin routine.

Dave
 
As a side note, 476 is exactly the same thing as the 885, and 845 is identical to 925. Might be able to save yourself some money in the future.
 
RPPM,
I just used Collinites chart as I need the most durable products I can get. When it is 115 the last thing I want to do is buffing and waxing. At this time money is no object as I want to give everything it's fair shot. Once all the dust settles I am sure it will slash the product stash. I had the 845 for a few years in the closet in the house but never really used it until now. The 920 was bought for Gel Coat minor oxidation ( if such a thing exists ). The last time I thought the RV had minor oxidation I went thru the Megs compound ( 105 ) and right up to the 3M Super Duty. Has anyone applied 476 with a machine ?, Rotary or DA ?. I ask as my shoulders have problems and that may be the determining factor over the most durable.


Dave
 
Dave,

No issues, it is all good. I have used a buffer to apply 476, I prefer to use a Buff & Shine 4" white finishing pad with a Buff & Shine 3.5" backing plate. I use speed 3 on a GG6. I will spritz the face of the pad with some water before starting, and about every 3rd time I go back to the tin for more wax. I place the face of the pad in the tin and lightly twist back and forth once. Don't turn the buffer on in the tin to load up the pad. As long as you put it on whisper thin, to the point you can barely see it, you should be okay in removal. DO NOT USE 476 IN THE SUN. It will bake it onto your paint and make removal a truly miserable experience.
 
Just to add one more thing, I can't say Collinite offers up any extra durability over Duragloss 105 when used with 601. I just personally prefer the look of the Collinite products to the Duragloss products. DG makes some really, really good products, and they are so easy to apply and remove.
 
RPPM said:
Dave,

No issues, it is all good. I have used a buffer to apply 476, I prefer to use a Buff & Shine 4" white finishing pad with a Buff & Shine 3.5" backing plate. I use speed 3 on a GG6. I will spritz the face of the pad with some water before starting, and about every 3rd time I go back to the tin for more wax. I place the face of the pad in the tin and lightly twist back and forth once. Don't turn the buffer on in the tin to load up the pad. As long as you put it on whisper thin, to the point you can barely see it, you should be okay in removal. DO NOT USE 476 IN THE SUN. It will bake it onto your paint and make removal a truly miserable experience.
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Good info. I will give it a try I used a B&S red pad with the 925 and it worked well

Dave
 
RPPM said:
Just to add one more thing, I can't say Collinite offers up any extra durability over Duragloss 105 when used with 601. I just personally prefer the look of the Collinite products to the Duragloss products. DG makes some really, really good products, and they are so easy to apply and remove.
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Agree, I have a stock pile of DG products and personally think the 601/111 over 105 is the ultimate sealant combo.

Dave
 
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Dave, do you think 111/601 is a brighter look than 105? I just find 105 dark for some reason.
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Yes it does seem to brighten and the extra bling makes it worth it. Also the 111 states UV protection where 105 does not. Does the UV protection work ?, from what I saw on the van when oxidation started on the roof with 601/105 but nowhere else with 601/111 over the 105. If you haven't tried it add it to the must try list. I do not think you will regret it.

Dave
 
I've also had good luck with DGRW+AW when I have 845 on. I had to learn this myself as I tried my BFRW which is what I use in the summer with BFWD as my sealant. I was getting streaks pretty bad. So I figured I would try DGRW+AW. Worked perfect.

845 always lasts a full winter for me. That's even with probably 10 touchless washes.
 
davidc- I almost always apply 476S via machine, no problems at all. And FWIW, I use IUDJ as a drying aid, never messd with the Collinite.
 
Accumulator said:
davidc- I almost always apply 476S via machine, no problems at all. And FWIW, I use IUDJ as a drying aid, never messd with the Collinite.
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Thanks, I am thinking of using a putty Knife to get the wax from the can and spread on the 5.5 B&S pad. Better ideas ?. I am all ears. Rookie at this part.

Dave
 
Anyone tried 840 cleaner ?. Directions say not for dark clearcoat and I do not have that problem. $8.99 for 16oz is a good price.

Dave
 
davidc- Short version is *DO NOT* use that 840. I like Collinite stuff (and the employees there that I've spoken with), but, uhm...just don't go that route.

Whatever you use to get the paste wax on the pad, you should then rub it in a bit to get it distributed evenly and then (here's the real important part) try to scrape as much wax back *out of* the pad as you can, get rid of the excess and things will go better. The pad will have more wax in/on it than you'd think. When you're finished, run really hot water over the pad and see how much wax you can squeeze out of it- that is excess product that isn't just wasted, it can also make the job tougher (especially getting a nice streak-free outcome). That's the big challenge with machine-application of paste waxes IME, trying to avoid using too much.
 
OK no 840, that's a shame. I can imagine a little learning curve with paste by machine, Thanks for the tips.

Dave
 
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