opticoat over black ice

**glfahlc1** · 05-22-2014, 08:19 PM

wanna use this combo on the wifes jet black bmw. anyone done this yet. what were your results. is it necessary to put a coating over black ice... opinions please

**Ronkh** · 05-22-2014, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by glfahlc1

wanna use this combo on the wifes jet black bmw. anyone done this yet. what were your results. is it necessary to put a coating over black ice... opinions please

IMHO - it wouldn`t wok putting a coating over wax. (but i`m a hack so what do I know) But if it works I know what I`m doing next

**ShaneB** · 05-22-2014, 09:49 PM

Opti coat will only last as long as the material it bonds to. If it bonds directly to the paint, it will last as long as the paint is there. If it bonds to black ice, it will wear away with the black ice. It would be a waste of opti coat to do it in that order IMO

You could try black ice on top of opti coat. Not sure what kind of durability you would get from the black ice in this case though.

**spiralout462** · 05-22-2014, 10:20 PM

If you like trying different waxes or if you are happy with Black Ice a coating is not for you sir.

**cleanmycorolla** · 05-23-2014, 01:36 AM

Coating over wax is a bad idea. Wax over coating bad idea. Either choose one or the other, not both. You can, but you`d just be wasting opti coat. A coating is a permanent/semi permanent layer that needs completely bare paint to bond too. Putting it over a wax is a waste. And if you wax on a coating, you`re just wasting the benefits a coating provides.

**Stokdgs** · 05-23-2014, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by glfahlc1

wanna use this combo on the wifes jet black bmw. anyone done this yet. what were your results. is it necessary to put a coating over black ice... opinions please

This will never work..

You either want the extreme gloss of Black Ice or the not so extreme gloss of a permanent coating like Opti-Coat...

Everyone`s comment above is right on..
Dan F

**Todd@RUPES** · 05-23-2014, 05:49 AM

The BlackICE will prevent the Opti-Coat from bonding correctly. What`s more, the strong solvents in Opti-Coat will loosen some of the BlackICE, creating a streaky mess that is going to be very difficult to remove.

**glfahlc1** · 05-23-2014, 11:53 AM

thanks everyone for your quick replies.... gotta go with the black ice. got other cars for the opticoat

**Ronkh** · 05-23-2014, 11:54 AM

I`m wondering about black ice over CQ UK

(sorry for the thread hijack, but it seemed an appropriate place)

**Orinda Auto Detail** · 05-23-2014, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Ronkh

I`m wondering about black ice over CQ UK

(sorry for the thread hijack, but it seemed an appropriate place)

Please dont OC over BI! BTW Ron top CQ with either hydro or reload! Waxing over it gets really messy... And streaky. Hydro is my choice to top!

**Ronkh** · 05-23-2014, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Jsmooth

Please dont OC over BI! BTW Ron top CQ with either hydro or reload! Waxing over it gets really messy... And streaky. Hydro is my choice to top!

Hydro in FL summer is not a great idea, unless I do car at night. I have both though.

I am surprised at how non-slick the surface is. SO mebbe reload, or wait till evening

**JSFM35X** · 05-23-2014, 01:29 PM

If I were you I would rock that car naked for a while and let it really cure out before I put anything on the surface. Bake it in the hot FL sun really good.

Originally Posted by Ronkh

Hydro in FL summer is not a great idea, unless I do car at night. I have both though.

I am surprised at how non-slick the surface is. SO mebbe reload, or wait till evening

**Ronkh** · 05-23-2014, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by JSFM35X

If I were you I would rock that car naked for a while and let it really cure out before I put anything on the surface. Bake it in the hot FL sun really good.

been 6 days already, but ok

**Orinda Auto Detail** · 05-23-2014, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ronkh

Hydro in FL summer is not a great idea, unless I do car at night. I have both though.

I am surprised at how non-slick the surface is. SO mebbe reload, or wait till evening

Ron coating never get as slick as say wet diamond. They all seem a little bit tacky to me compared to traditional stuff. Hydro will help more than reload for slickness if thats what your going for!