How long would you say the slickness lasts on the paint in terms of time and washes?
Josh
How long would you say the slickness lasts on the paint in terms of time and washes?
Josh
Perfection Is In The Details
How long would you say the slickness lasts on the paint in terms of time and washes? That is washing without a QD added for slickness?
Josh
Perfection Is In The Details
[QUOTE=Termigator;5072]Thanks for the info, Todd. However slight the differences may be between new and old Blackfire, I`m still glad I have older version of Blackfire. I like the smell!
Do you think they will ever upgrade FMJ? (And don`t say "yeah, it`s called Blackfire Wet Diamond!!)[/QUOTE]
I don`t think that FMJ will be upgraded or updated. The truth is that it is still, after 6 years, one of our best selling products. It is similar to the whole Meguiar`s thing when they are asked why they have so many polishes, waxes, etc: Because each has a loyal following. In fact FMJ is so good that many of other companies closely emulated the formula and the polymer technology in their own sealant. To this day FMJ competes very respectably against many newer sealants while still offering the advantages that made it revolutionary when we released it.
-Super slick and low dust attraction- FMJ leaves behind a surface that is very slippery. If you have ever flooded the paint of a car sealed with FMJ you know what I am talking about, the water just flies off. While many products have a very similar feel nowadays, FMJ was the original, and IMO, very few products approach that crazy slickness. Heck I have dropped my share of microfibers by foolishly setting them on the slightly slanted hood of a car with FMJ. That ultra slick finish also does wonder in preventing a strong static charge caused by the friction of a microfiber rubbed across the surface.
-Washability- FMJ is very slick and forms a very tight, cross linked bond. As such dirt and grime has very little to `stick to`.
-Unique high gloss look- FMJ has a very unique look which was the benefit of the then `new` German acrylic super polymers. It is a wet, even gloss look then many people fell in love with.
-Ease of application- FMJ to this day is still one of the easiest products to apply and remove. I have never seen it streak, and wiping it off is as easy as swiping a towel over the surface.
That said, and I`m sorry to do this to you, but in most cases (minus ease of use) the newest version of Blackfire Wet Diamond really does improve on the original FMJ formula. It lasts way longer, is as easy to wash, and `almost` as easy to apply and remove. While look are always subject, Blackfire looks as good on light colors and far deeper/better on dark colors, at least to my eyes.
I hear voices in my mind and you’re worried that you’re the freak.
Junebug, I`ve been a Blackfire fan since`05. With regards to your indecision about putting a Blackfire "carnuba wax" over the top of it my advice is: GO FOR IT!!! For 3 years I wondered the same thing as you and for years I kept putting it off (because of the cost of Midnight Sun and because I like that really slick feeling of Wet Diamond). Last year I took the plunge and bought Midnight Sun and I`ve used it over the top off Wet Diamond ever since! It`s not a "slick" as Wet Diamond but boy does it ever give "depth" to your paint job! :thumbup:
Hey Twig, welcome to the forum!!!!
When you applied the Midnight Sun over the Wet Diamond, how long did you let the Wet Diamond cure prior to the wax application?
I have found that if you let the Wet Diamond w/ polycharger cure a significant amount of time (6-8 hours after wiping off) the surface will remain pretty slick. But as you noticed the surface will not feel quite as slick after the application of Midnight Sun, which is proof that the wax is working as it is designed to.
Midnight Sun Batch 24 is a very unique carnauba wax in that not only is it the best wax that CMA has ever developed, beating our previous best effort which we sold, but it was designed to really bond on top of polymer sealants as well as it bonds on top of bare paint. IIRC Terry was the first person to recommend topping sealants with carnauba wax. When we set the bar with slickness with Menzerna FMJ, we found that most carnauba waxes, including our top offering at the time, had no real staying power on top the sealants. They didn`t `bond` well to the ultra slick finish.
Midnight Sun completely addresses this problem. While we haven`t tested on top of all sealants (yet), we haven`t found one it doesn`t work well on top of!
the Blackfire sealant? Is there a minimum time the product should stay on the paint to do its job?
I try not to remove it too quickly otherwise I feel that the product does not have the time to do its thing....so on the average I let it stay on the paint for 5 minutes or so before buffing it off.....is my thinking correct?
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