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    Re: FK1000p Beginner questions

    JustJesus- Here` something to keep an eye out for regarding the 50:1...sometimes after I clean the glass, *if I let it go without more cleaning for a lot longer than usual*, the "not clean glass any more"-effect seems to show somewhat like "smearing", making me wonder if whatever causes the 50:1 to leave the glass slick eventually dies off, leaving the glass not just "it was clean, but now it`s dusty and dirty", but smeared looking, presumably with "50:1 artifacts" causing that appearance. Note all those scare-quotes, not sure I`m describing this adequately...It does clean up again fine, and I seldom let the glass get that bad between cleanings, but still it makes me wonder.

    Manix & Dan- Interesting! I`ll log your experiences into the "not working for `em" category. Eh, I always feel bad when somebody tries something that I consider All That only to have it under-perform for them. Curious about why the !YMMV! thing bit so hard too..

    FWIW, I`ve never used it on glass...nor on a vehicle kept outside.

    How many coats were used for those results?

    What (conventional/non-coating) products have performed better for you guys?

    Manix- Any etching from those bird-bombs?

    Dan- That daily outside all the time?

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    Yeah, when I say 3 months, that 1 coat applied by hand and parked outside 24x7. That`s not a bad number, about mid pack. Z2 lasts longer but offers very little in terms of protection. Collinte is about the only other thing that really lasts considerably longer for me.

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    Dan- thanks for the added info. Right offhand, I can`t recall ever using just one coat of FK1000P, wonder if it`s like KSG where it *can* be incredibly good, but only with multiple applications.
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    Re: FK1000p Beginner questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator View Post
    JustJesus- Here` something to keep an eye out for regarding the 50:1...sometimes after I clean the glass, *if I let it go without more cleaning for a lot longer than usual*, the "not clean glass any more"-effect seems to show somewhat like "smearing", making me wonder if whatever causes the 50:1 to leave the glass slick eventually dies off, leaving the glass not just "it was clean, but now it`s dusty and dirty", but smeared looking, presumably with "50:1 artifacts" causing that appearance. Note all those scare-quotes, not sure I`m describing this adequately...It does clean up again fine, and I seldom let the glass get that bad between cleanings, but still it makes me wonder.
    Thanks for the info on that. I`ll keep an eye out for when I get around to using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator View Post
    JustJesus- Here` something to keep an eye out for regarding the 50:1...sometimes after I clean the glass, *if I let it go without more cleaning for a lot longer than usual*, the "not clean glass any more"-effect seems to show somewhat like "smearing", making me wonder if whatever causes the 50:1 to leave the glass slick eventually dies off, leaving the glass not just "it was clean, but now it`s dusty and dirty", but smeared looking, presumably with "50:1 artifacts" causing that appearance. Note all those scare-quotes, not sure I`m describing this adequately...It does clean up again fine, and I seldom let the glass get that bad between cleanings, but still it makes me wonder.

    Manix & Dan- Interesting! I`ll log your experiences into the "not working for `em" category. Eh, I always feel bad when somebody tries something that I consider All That only to have it under-perform for them. Curious about why the !YMMV! thing bit so hard too..

    FWIW, I`ve never used it on glass...nor on a vehicle kept outside.

    How many coats were used for those results?

    What (conventional/non-coating) products have performed better for you guys?

    Manix- Any etching from those bird-bombs?

    Dan- That daily outside all the time?
    Hi,

    As far as I can tell no etching. But bird poop usually sticks far worse in summer with the heat & sunlight.

    Next time I apply I will try 3-4 coats & see how long they last.

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    Re: FK1000p Beginner questions

    Hi Accumulator and others. I am still loving my FK1000 and its loves my Yellow Ute the Glossy Hard Candy look is sensational (2 coats). Re recent posts on what wash to use? For me the Megs Ultimate Wash n Wax works a treat. I could not wish for a better after wash look and it looks great right up to the next fortnightly wash. ( I do every third wash to break up the routine use Megs Gold Class or Autoglym however the Wash n Wax Compliments the FK like none of the other washes i have used

    Just as a note i tried a spray sealant called Concours Nova Jet (being well received here in Australia a genuine stand alone sealant or topper) just on a test spot on my hood to see how it went with the FK and despite it being a good product re shine and hydrophobic properties it didnt add much at all to the FK as a topper. So as you said Accumulator to me on another post, after i had tried my waxes as toppers on some test sections, that I would probably revert to FK as the stand alone product. Indeed that is the case. So for me the combo of the FK as the sealant: and the Megs Wash n Wax: Works for me 10/10. Cheers Danny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannyzz View Post
    Hi Accumulator and others. I am still loving my FK1000 and its loves my Yellow Ute the Glossy Hard Candy look is sensational (2 coats). Re recent posts on what wash to use? For me the Megs Ultimate Wash n Wax works a treat. I could not wish for a better after wash look and it looks great right up to the next fortnightly wash. ( I do every third wash to break up the routine use Megs Gold Class or Autoglym however the Wash n Wax Compliments the FK like none of the other washes i have used

    Just as a note i tried a spray sealant called Concours Nova Jet (being well received here in Australia a genuine stand alone sealant or topper) just on a test spot on my hood to see how it went with the FK and despite it being a good product re shine and hydrophobic properties it didnt add much at all to the FK as a topper. So as you said Accumulator to me on another post, after i had tried my waxes as toppers on some test sections, that I would probably revert to FK as the stand alone product. Indeed that is the case. So for me the combo of the FK as the sealant: and the Megs Wash n Wax: Works for me 10/10. Cheers Danny.
    I tried Ultima Acrylic Spray Wax as a topper to FK1000 and was amazed at the results--increased gloss and has the same characteristics as the FK1000.

    Ultima Acrylic Spray Wax
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    That`s what I find with the Megs Ultimate Wash n Wax adds extra gloss and even adds a greater level of slipperiness without seemingly affecting the FK1000. The Ultima I have never used (not sure it is here in Oz so good to know it plays with the Mighty FK1000.

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    Dannyzz- Glad it`s working out so well for you. Interesting how some leaves-stuff-behind products work so well with FK1000P, glad you found a wash you like that`s compatible.

    Manix- Ah, glad the bird-bombs didn`t etch, at least that`s something. Wonder if the additional coats will make a diff...watch out for pseudo-holograms!

    pwaug- Ah, another product that`s FK1000P-compatible!

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    Re: FK1000p Beginner questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Accumulator View Post
    JustJesus- Here` something to keep an eye out for regarding the 50:1...sometimes after I clean the glass, *if I let it go without more cleaning for a lot longer than usual*, the "not clean glass any more"-effect seems to show somewhat like "smearing", making me wonder if whatever causes the 50:1 to leave the glass slick eventually dies off, leaving the glass not just "it was clean, but now it`s dusty and dirty", but smeared looking, presumably with "50:1 artifacts" causing that appearance. Note all those scare-quotes, not sure I`m describing this adequately...It does clean up again fine, and I seldom let the glass get that bad between cleanings, but still it makes me wonder.
    I`ve been using 3D 50:1 Glass Cleaner for a couple of years now and haven`t had this experience. Make sure you use the 50:1 dilution rating as there is a warning on the bottle to not exceed this ratio. I mix it with distilled water and .5 oz of IPA and use Huck towels to clean my glass. With the first towel (wet with the cleaner) it creates sort of a film on the glass that removes easily with the second dry towel and as the film is removed you can feel the slickness. I find this to be an advantage as I can clean glass without smearing even in bad light just by making sure the entire pane is slick.
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    pwaug- Yeah, that mirrors my experience (other than I`ve never added the IPA and have a different preference in Glass Towels).

    BUT...after an extended period without cleaning the glass, the soiling, which oughta just be a uniform layer of dust/dirt/etc. shows traces of how I`d previously wiped when I cleaned it the last time. I seldom go all that long without cleaning the glass, and it`s never hard to fix it, but still....doesn`t happen with some of my other Glass Cleaners.

    It *does* also happen, in a more striking way, with Detailer`s Pride (got it as a freebie), which leaves a film that I can *see as residue on my towel* when I clean it off with something else.

    While the 50:1 is working out OK for me, I honestly don`t believe it leaves the glass as (truly, literally) clean as does, say....Zep40. By the time I go through the forty-some gallons worth of it my concentrate will mix up, I bet I`ll have made up my mind about the stuff! So far I`m leaning towards sticking with it but we`ll see how I feel after a few years.

 

 
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