dawn liquid dishwasher soap

[gmblack3]

Dawn will strip waxes. It will deteriorate the protection of some sealants, but sealants will hold up longer then most waxes.

Either get her some Meguiars gold class on your next order from here at Proper auto care or pickup some at the local auto parts store.

[Trouble]

Dawn will strip waxes. It will deteriorate the protection of some sealants, but sealants will hold up longer then most waxes.

Either get her some Meguiars gold class on your next order from here at Proper auto care or pickup some at the local auto parts store.

Bryan, do you think Gold Class strips wax?

[Old Pirate]

She needs a good car wash to use on her car. She needs to stay away from dawn, because it will help dry out all of her rubber gaskets down the road and help remove any LSP she might have.

[Trouble]

She needs a good car wash to use on her car. She needs to stay away from dawn, because it will help dry out all of her rubber gaskets down the road and help remove any LSP she might have.

Dawn dries out the seals too?!?!?!? X_X

[imported_Chris@Optimum]

Here`s an interesting argument against dish detergents for automotive cleaning: http://m.carwash.com/detailing/artic...gent-detailing

[Nth Degree]

Here`s an interesting argument against dish detergents for automotive cleaning: http://m.carwash.com/detailing/artic...gent-detailing

Great article for those who are not informed. I have always advised against washing with dish soap. That is not to say I never use it. I use it only when I will be polishing and sealing/waxing after.

I always ask new customers what their current method of washing/maintaining is. I want to make sure they are not going to undo the work I do and that they are going to be happy with the job past the first wash. I often have to educate them and make several recommendations.

[Street Dreams]

Dawn doesn`t strip wax. If it were the case, why does my car still bead like crazy and I haven`t waxed it in two months :-?

Whoever started this myth doesn`t know what there talking about

Unless your car has OptiCoat or something similar than yes it will definitely aid in stripping wax or sealant, if not fully at least partially. Claying and IPA usually knock out the rest.

[Trouble]

Here`s an interesting argument against dish detergents for automotive cleaning: http://m.carwash.com/detailing/artic...gent-detailing

With all due respect Chris. That article sounds like a bunch of gobbly-gook. It seems to me that the ones you always hear promoting using a dedicated car wash soap, are the very ones selling automotive detailing supplies

All I can say is I`ve been washing my personal car for 17 years every 2 weeks with Dawn and waxing every 2-3 months and am happy to report all of my seals are intact and my paint is immaculate and beads like nobodys business. My painter who commands as much as $75,000 pr vehicle uses Dawn too. If anyone would know about dishwashing liquid damaging paint, I assure you he would

Untill someone can provide some solid data that proves dishwashing liquid causes all these issues I see on the net, I`m going to always consider it just someone blowing smoke a.k.a. internet follklore a.k.a. someone who really doesn`t know what there talking about

Kind regards,

Trouble :-B

[Trouble]

Unless your car has OptiCoat or something similar than yes it will definitely aid in stripping wax or sealant, if not fully at least partially. Claying and IPA usually knock out the rest.

I agree with this David ^ But on the other hand, dedicated car wash soaps also remove LSP`s, no?

[imported_detailchick]

What kind of wax do you use Trouble, and how much dawn do you use?

[imported_Auto Concierge]

Dawn doesn`t strip wax. If it were the case, why does my car still bead like crazy and I haven`t waxed it in two months :-?

Whoever started this myth doesn`t know what there talking about

Flash it strips wax and sealants on cars I work on(lol), sometimes it will take two washes back to back but it does work so I am just curious why you would say this?.

Apc`s depending on strength can etch paint and rubber seals as well, to me it justs aids in the total decon of a vehicle before correction details, I utilize CG maxi-suds when I do not want the conventional LSP stripped.

[Trouble]

What kind of wax do you use Trouble, and how much dawn do you use?

Different brands, but primarly on my personal car I use Karneet

Never measured the amount of Dawn. I just eyeball it

Trouble it strips wax and sealants on cars I work on(lol), sometimes it will take two washes back to back but it does work so I am just curious why you would say this?.

Bob, I suppose your right to a degree. Dawn does strip wax, but so does a dedicated car wash soap. Sure, Dawn may speed up the process (who really knows though), I`m still averaging 3 months of hot beading action while washing every 2 weeks with Dawn and my paint is neither flaking, peeling or fading and my rubber is intact. 17 years I`ve been practicing this on the same car. How do you explain that is all I`m asking? Also, how long would you say the average LSP lasts?

Apc`s depending on strength can etch paint and rubber seals as well, to me it justs aids in the total decon of a vehicle before correction details, I utilize CG maxi-suds when I do not want the conventional LSP stripped.

Bob, right now I`m trying to defend Dawn. If you would like to discuss washing with APC`s I can start another thread if you would like?


Thanks for the discussion everyone. I find it very intresting to see others views

Trouble Muscleman

[Moderator 3]

With all due respect Chris. That article sounds like a bunch of gobbly-gook. It seems to me that the ones you always hear promoting using a dedicated car wash soap, are the very ones selling automotive detailing supplies

All I can say is I`ve been washing my personal car for 17 years every 2 weeks with Dawn and waxing every 2-3 months and am happy to report all of my seals are intact and my paint is immaculate and beads like nobodys business. My painter who commands as much as $75,000 pr vehicle uses Dawn too. If anyone would know about dishwashing liquid damaging paint, I assure you he would

Untill someone can provide some solid data that proves dishwashing liquid causes all these issues I see on the net, I`m going to always consider it just someone blowing smoke a.k.a. internet follklore a.k.a. someone who really doesn`t know what there talking about

Kind regards,

Trouble :-B

Different brands, but primarly on my personal car I use Karneet

Never measured the amount of Dawn. I just eyeball it



Bob, right now I`m trying to defend Dawn. If you would like to discuss washing with APC`s I can start another thread if you would like?


Thanks for the discussion everyone. I find it very intresting to see others views

Trouble Muscleman

Flash/trouble,

Please do not dismiss other members opinions as:

someone who really doesn`t know what there talking about

It is not your place to say what can and can`t be discussed in a thread. We are very much open to aspects of how other products relate.

[shizam1]

There was a chemist on here a while back stating that Dawn won`t do any worse to paint then automotive detergents.

I`m not a chemist, and can`t verify anything anyway, so I`ll just continue to use Meguiars NXT or ONR on my cars.

Your car may still bead with no wax if it`s highly polished and has no gunk on it.

[imported_Auto Concierge]

Flash, you are the only detailer I know who uses Dawn to wash on a regular basis as I use it just to strip LSP and I would make a good guess that everyone else feels the same way.

No worries though do what you "Gotta do".