Detailed: 2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee

**Jscort98** · 01-05-2008, 07:25 PM

depends how loud the music is.

**Jscort98** · 01-05-2008, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Macko

Speeding is getting too dicey in the UK, bloody cameras (fixed & mobile) everywhere. If you double the posted limit or break 100 you can kiss goodbye to you licence for a year or more. Factor in a 100% increase in insurance premiums & it`s beyond a joke.

Not sure how it works in the States but over here you get photographed by a camera & you get a letter in the post about 2 weeks later with your details & the nature of the offence.

A friend went past the same mobile camera 4 times in 2 hours, 30mph zone, he clocked 34, 37, 34 & 35. First he knew about it was when 4 prosecution letters arrived on the same day. Fined $640, 12 points on his licence, banned for 6 months.

They don`t even let you do five over there?

**velobard** · 01-05-2008, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Jscort98

They don`t even let you do five over there?

Two of them were for only 4 over!

**azenthusiast** · 01-06-2008, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Macko

Speeding is getting too dicey in the UK, bloody cameras (fixed & mobile) everywhere. If you double the posted limit or break 100 you can kiss goodbye to you licence for a year or more. Factor in a 100% increase in insurance premiums & it`s beyond a joke.

Not sure how it works in the States but over here you get photographed by a camera & you get a letter in the post about 2 weeks later with your details & the nature of the offence.

A friend went past the same mobile camera 4 times in 2 hours, 30mph zone, he clocked 34, 37, 34 & 35. First he knew about it was when 4 prosecution letters arrived on the same day. Fined $640, 12 points on his licence, banned for 6 months.

It`s getting to be that way in Arizona. I live in Tempe and travel through Scottsdale all the time. They are becoming notorious for their usage of photo enforcement. On the Loop 101, the cameras aren`t tripped unless you are doing at least 11 mph over, but the surface street cameras are much more sensitive. Tempe also has the red light cameras at nearly every intersection now.

**JohnZ3MC** · 01-06-2008, 02:23 PM

I drive buses, some of which are double decker buses, old original English ones, and last summer, with a good tailwind and heading down a hill with pedal to the metal, I hit 44 mph with old #405.

No passengers aboard but it was like an E ticket ride at Disneyland.

Downright scary. (I was in the slow lane)

-John C.

**Accumulator** · 01-06-2008, 04:06 PM

JohnZ3MC- Heh heh, that`s a whole new take on "it`s more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow"

**boywonder** · 01-07-2008, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by azenthusiast

It`s getting to be that way in Arizona. I live in Tempe and travel through Scottsdale all the time. They are becoming notorious for their usage of photo enforcement. On the Loop 101, the cameras aren`t tripped unless you are doing at least 11 mph over, but the surface street cameras are much more sensitive. Tempe also has the red light cameras at nearly every intersection now.

Add the fact that DPS is exploring the possibility of putting cameras throughout the state and it`s going to get dicey as well.

Illinois isn`t far behind. They already have red light cameras in quite a few locations in Chicago and the IL State Police have a Photo Van for construction zones but I won`t find it surprising to be used for speed enforcement outside of construction zones. Couple that with the unmarked cars they have and it gets even more interesting.

BTW, the highway that one poster spoke of is the Northwest Tollway where the Interstate sign is the actual speed limit. I have even gone so far as to call that expressway the Autobahn. I-94 is not fun in WI, MI, or IN.

**boywonder** · 01-07-2008, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by 3wide

i live about 20miles north of I-80, it`s a very fast pased highway, great for making good time. i had a girlfriend who used to live in the suburbs of chicago and she told me about an interstate that led you out of chicago north. apparently if you weren`t doing 90 you where in the way, she said you`d see vipers, corvettes, all sorts of go fast cars. i don`t remember,i think is was 94??

Wouldn`t that make you close to I-88 which is another tollway to let the fur fly (except around 355)?

**mhadden** · 01-07-2008, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by PrinzII

Illinois isn`t far behind. They already have red light cameras in quite a few locations in Chicago and the IL State Police have a Photo Van for construction zones but I won`t find it surprising to be used for speed enforcement outside of construction zones. Couple that with the unmarked cars they have and it gets even more interesting.

BTW, the highway that one poster spoke of is the Northwest Tollway where the Interstate sign is the actual speed limit. I have even gone so far as to call that expressway the Autobahn. I-94 is not fun in WI, MI, or IN.

Sure do. A buddy of mine already got one of those lovely tickets in the mail for the construction zone. I`ve taken the front license plate off my company car for this reason. Supposedly, it only gets the front of the car so it can get the drive and the license plate.

I-94 is fun to go "94"

But the asshats that drive below the speed limit in the left lane are the reasons Chicago (and Wisconsin in general) traffic sucks so bad. I`ve never seen so many stupid drivers. "Oh someone hit the brakes a mile ahead of me, I better hit mine too!":think:

I guess that`s the Michigan driver in me!

**boywonder** · 01-07-2008, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by mhadden

Sure do. A buddy of mine already got one of those lovely tickets in the mail for the construction zone. I`ve taken the front license plate off my company car for this reason. Supposedly, it only gets the front of the car so it can get the drive and the license plate.

I-94 is fun to go "94"

But the asshats that drive below the speed limit in the left lane are the reasons Chicago (and Wisconsin in general) traffic sucks so bad. I`ve never seen so many stupid drivers. "Oh someone hit the brakes a mile ahead of me, I better hit mine too!":think:

I guess that`s the Michigan driver in me!

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God knows I have laid smoke on I-94 (Edens, Kennedy, and Ryan) as well as I-88, I-290, I-355, I-57, I-80, I-294, IL 394, I-65 in IN, and I-43 in WI.

As for stupid drivers, you need to come down here to AZ and see stupid drivers in action. You will never see Chicago drivers the same way again.

**mhadden** · 01-07-2008, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by PrinzII

mhadden:

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God knows I have laid smoke on I-94 (Edens, Kennedy, and Ryan) as well as I-88, I-290, I-355, I-57, I-80, I-294, IL 394, I-65 in IN, and I-43 in WI.

As for stupid drivers, you need to come down here to AZ and see stupid drivers in action. You will never see Chicago drivers the same way again.

Actually, I know what you are talking about. My parents live in Queen Creek. When driving on the 202, people drive in the carpool lane and left lanes when traffic is going faster in the right lanes! But the 202 sucks now with the speed cameras...I try not to over do it unless I`m riding along with traffic.

**itb76** · 01-07-2008, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by mhadden

...But the asshats that drive below the speed limit in the left lane are the reasons Chicago (and Wisconsin in general) traffic sucks so bad. I`ve never seen so many stupid drivers. "Oh someone hit the brakes a mile ahead of me, I better hit mine too!":think:

I guess that`s the Michigan driver in me!

Ain`t that the truth!! I`m a Michigan driver born in Wisconsin. I get along much better here!

**boywonder** · 01-07-2008, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by mhadden

Actually, I know what you are talking about. My parents live in Queen Creek. When driving on the 202, people drive in the carpool lane and left lanes when traffic is going faster in the right lanes! But the 202 sucks now with the speed cameras...I try not to over do it unless I`m riding along with traffic.

202 or is it the 101? I have not seen any cameras on either part of the 202.