See, THAT is the kind of information I was looking for. Thanks, Todd!
And David was the one I first heard about cleaning clay from.I showed David Fermani how to use a OPC to clean clay two years ago, before I ever tried Blackfire Clay Cleaner and Extender, which is my current preference. The entire Optimum line is amazing and we are proud to carry it at Autopia-CarCare.com and I would love to read about other`s positive experience with it in a separate and educational thread that would benefit all.
Charlie
Automotive Appearance Specialist - Serving Greater Lansing, Michigan
http://www.cchautoappearance.com/
Excellent Todd, thanks for the information. I knew from using the product first hand that Blackfire Clay Cleaner & Extender works great, and now I know why it works so well. Your technical analysis of the product really shed some light on what differentiates it from any regular, run-of-the-mill all purpose cleaner or degreaser. It`s always refreshing to have a product available from any manufacturer that excels at its intended use.
Why not just buy new clay when you need it? Seems like trying to artificially lengthen the life of a piece of detailing clay is somewhat "against the grain" of our normal thought processes. It`s not like clay is all that expensive. Maybe I am missing the big picture here.
I guess it all depends how often one clays, then again, clay, and I assume this product, has a long shelf life, so it`s something one could purchase and be able to have in the stash for a long time.
Treat it like it`s the only one in the world.
Charlie
Automotive Appearance Specialist - Serving Greater Lansing, Michigan
http://www.cchautoappearance.com/
interesting this thread came back to life because I was just considering a purchase to give it a shot
from my perspective, I find I spend a fair amount of time kneading clay to begin with (especially in cold temps - clay magic blue in the cold is brutal). So if a quick spritz here and there could reduce the number of times I have to knead, plus the savings in life of the clay bar, I suppose its worth a shot.
todd`s tech explanation was very helpful btw
Bryan
Mr. Sparkle Detailing Inc - Owner / Operator
http://www.mrsparkledetailing.com
Instagram @MrSparkleDetailing
I have been using this Blackfire Product since it first came out at PAC, years ago. Angelo told me about it and I tried it.
Out here where its raining crap from mega-tall trees 24 x 7, and raining at the same time, everyone`s car is full of embedded crap, and at the Claybar stage, you can run through a bar pretty quickly kneading it.
This product has saved me much kneading for the trade-off of keeping an extra bucket of hot water next to me to dunk the claybar in after spraying and wiping it.
And it has also cut down on the number of claybars I buy a year.
Havent timed it to see if its faster than just kneading the clay to a clean spot, but I think for the trade off of keeping the claybar cleaner longer, it is worth it to me in my shop.
What it looks like it is doing in my humble opinion, is removing a very thin layer of clay that is holding the gunk and releasing it so it rinses off with clean water.
Works great !!!
Dan F
Looks like I`ve been wasting money by just tossing clay out after using it.
Another BF product that I`ve been wanting to try, just been too cheap because I didn`t have enough info about it. Thanks Todd!
I have a bottle that I still have yet to try. With clay being a bit expensive, I can see this being beneficial. Some of the contaminants may get burried in the clay like the bigger chunks if you will. So I imagine this may give the false appearance that ur clay is clean and in turn you are actually marring the paint more than with a truly clean piece of clay. ??? Just a tought.
But I think you would notice the bigger pieces of dirt that get imbedded. Even cleaning the clay with this I still would knead and fold it just to be safe. The good thing is most of those contaminates would not be folded back into the clay and cause damage later
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Bookmarks