Need business advice

**Trouble** · 08-17-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by ca.detailchick

Trouble..........its not that I dont see your points and I agree what your saying could happen .

I would think you of all people should think anything is possible.

Im still trying to figure you out!

I know it could happen, but it won`t. Maybe I`m wrong, but I doubt it

The business would have to be grossing at least a half million dollars to even consider it

When you figure me out let me know

**dd1101** · 08-17-2012, 08:37 PM

If you have any general business question, or retirement planning let me know. I am in Finance and know a little bit about a business

**Concours.John** · 08-17-2012, 08:45 PM

While I can agree with where your going...

I can honestly say there are detailers making over 50k and they are the employees of an outfit. If it isn`t right now grossing over 7figures a year revenue it will be. I know this personally not through the grapevine.

The vehicles done will never be posted on a forum but are at every major Concours winning. I know because I am in this circle.

**rustytruck** · 08-19-2012, 05:10 PM

It would be very tough to pay someone in this business over 50k to clean and polish cars. What is the name of the company you work for. I would like to learn more about it. detailing cars is an unskilled labor job and these generally pay poorly. doing it part time for some pocket cash it`s not that bad. My helper enjoys working with me but he`s only a high school kid. He says I pay more than double what any of his buddies make. I could easily replace him he just does what I tell him to do. I`m not sure why any business owner would be paying over 50k when he could easily find someone to do the work for far less.

**Concours.John** · 08-19-2012, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by rustytruck

It would be very tough to pay someone in this business over 50k to clean and polish cars. What is the name of the company you work for. I would like to learn more about it. detailing cars is an unskilled labor job and these generally pay poorly. doing it part time for some pocket cash it`s not that bad. My helper enjoys working with me but he`s only a high school kid. He says I pay more than double what any of his buddies make. I could easily replace him he just does what I tell him to do. I`m not sure why any business owner would be paying over 50k when he could easily find someone to do the work for far less.

I work for myself and deal mostly with local collections. I`m referring to an exclusive high end Concours representation and detailing outfit. When you have 4 or more vehicles at every Concours in the nation plus hold the most exclusive collections this is very possible. It does require manpower and pay to compensate for all the travel/loyalty to keep talent trustworthy of the type of vehicles being worked on (a mistake is thousands if not tens of thousands). This type of organization is built solely on the trust of the person in charge. It is not in any way a typical detail operation. Hand selecting the cream of the crop before they go off on their own makes the difference. To do this it also has to be muli state located. Some of the largest collections most only know of a few vehicles. It goes the same for the guys doing them. Respect has to be earned by major collectors, restoration giants, Car selection judges, chairmen of Concours events, and publishers. It takes years to get there once in the loop.

It`s the nature of the game. The most exclusive collections are kept exclusive. Although it would be great for a resume you are under obligation of nondisclosure. It`s really as far as I can go. I just wanted to say it IS possible and happening.

**rustytruck** · 08-22-2012, 08:02 PM

Never even heard the word concours before this post. Had to look it up. Not in the dictionary. Had to search on line to learn more. Not my thing. So people actually have a staff detailer travel with their cars to always keep them up for these concours event or meets or whatever they are called. Seen I learn something new everyday.

I still don`t understand why they would pay over 50k. It seems like you could find a guy who is really into cars that would consider that a dream job and be willing to work for peanuts.

**Nth Degree** · 08-22-2012, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by rustytruck

I still don`t understand why they would pay over 50k. It seems like you could find a guy who is really into cars that would consider that a dream job and be willing to work for peanuts.

I could represent you inthe court for pennies on thea dollar. Would you trust me if years of jail time were at stake? I`d work in porn for free. Doesn`t make me qualified. Who would trust someone willing to work for peanuts to work on a rare or one of a kind car.

**Concours.John** · 08-23-2012, 02:13 PM

I wasn`t trying to sidetrack.

The main point is....if your going to trust someone with something important, vehicle or your business compensation is key. I`ve had help in the past and while the cat is away the mice will play unless there is motivation.

I`ve already experienced a manager placed in front with full responsiblity in restoration.

50k didn`t keep them from opening shop and taking clients with them.