Adams Only Please...

[GearHead_1]

Originally posted by tpgsr

So how is it a question of ethics?

Sounds to me like the customer left thinking they had something they didn`t? That`s why I brought up an ethics issue. One doesn`t have to tell a story to not speak the truth.

When thay came later that afternoon to pick it up they were really happy with the car. They went on and on about the brilliant Adams shine.

There`s nothing to hide here. Just tell the customer that these are the products you use to get a shine like this.

LMAO .... ya brave to admit it online ...hope they do not read your post! LOL

No cause for concern when there is nothing to hide.

[Scottwax]

#21 over your prep really has a deep shine. How is it holding up for you, Joe?



BTW, beautiful job on that car! I wish you`d post more pictures, you really do first rate work and get your hands on some great cars.

[Superior Shine]

I wish you`d post more pictures, you really do first rate work and get your hands on some great cars.

Your too kind Scott.



I will start posting cars as soon as I do `em.

[cwcad]

Originally posted by tpgsr

So how is it a question of ethics?

He knew by his own words that the owners were hard core

Adam`s users. Then went ahead and did the detail as he saw fit. That is .... Adam`s was not used.



The work of the detail is exemplary. All the work done on the car looks terrific!



By omitting that you used Meguiar`s instead of Adam`s product I think that you have committed fraud.



As some one said, "I think it is funny." But I am not laughing.

[kompressornsc]

Originally posted by cwcad

He knew by his own words that the owners were hard core

Adam`s users. Then went ahead and did the detail as he saw fit. That is .... Adam`s was not used.



The work of the detail is exemplary. All the work done on the car looks terrific!



By omitting that you used Meguiar`s instead of Adam`s product I think that you have committed fraud.



As some one said, "I think it is funny." But I am not laughing.

Reread. He didn`t know he was supposed to use the Adam`s until after he was done-not his fault. Fraud?



He just thought it was funny becasue the client thought he`d used one thing and used another. `Nuff said.

[stevet]

Yeah he didn`t purposely mislead the customers. He didn`t realize untill after the deatil was done.



When they started going on about the "Adams shine" I would have told them what happened. It would be good for a laugh.

[2k2blackWRX]

By omitting that you used Meguiar`s instead of Adam`s product I think that you have committed fraud.

Theres no fraud by omission in this case, in reality fraud by omission can`t be prosecuted against in most cases, there is no duty for him to disclose the facts but there is a duty to answer questions truthfully.



An exception would be if the car had some sort of serious defect from detailing it and he didn`t tell.



Regardless, even if there was an attempt at sueing for Fraud they would lose simply on the grounds that the 4 elements of fraud arent met:

Misrepresentation has occurred, Intent to Deceive, Reliance, Injury to Innocent



:sosad

[Scottwax]

Originally posted by cwcad



By omitting that you used Meguiar`s instead of Adam`s product I think that you have committed fraud.



As some one said, "I think it is funny." But I am not laughing.

I don`t think Joe even had any contact with the actual customer. The detail was contracted out by another shop, so I am sure Joe went out, did the detail, then found out about the Adams stuff after the fact. He is probably related what the owner of the other shop told him when the customer picked up the car.



I do details occasionally for a body shop and I have no contact with the actual owner of the vehicle and any comments I hear are from the owner of the body shop.

[Superior Shine]

This post is getting weird!! LOL!



Thanks for the defense Scott and Komp. and others.



I was given the keys and did the best job I knew how. I was never told about the Adams until after.

[2k2blackWRX]

I was just mentioning that because it was said that he may have committed fraud which he was far from

[cwcad]

My Bad! i guess i read the post in the wrong way. I spent quite a period of time thinking about what i was going to say in this thread. Guess i did not think enough.