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    Quote Originally Posted by gmblack3a
    Still use it here for at least 80% of my clients.



    I have tried some of the above mentioned products and they don`t last as long as zaino.



    It only takes me 27.59 seconds to play master chemist. It surely does not take 2 hours to apply 3x. My usual routine is too apply 2x followed by Z8. If you sat on your a$$ while waiting 10-15 mins or so for a coat to cure, it might take 2 hours.



    I apply the first coat.

    Then apply Z-16 to the tires.

    Remove first coat and apply second.

    Apply ZAIO to wheels or clean glass.

    Remove second coat and apply Z8

    Maybe 1 hour.



    When a client does not want a full correction detail and elects to have a one step machine polishing, I do the following:



    ZAIO via r/o and a white pad.

    Coat of Z2pro

    Z8



    Some detailers find it hard to demand premium prices for their services.



    ZAIO followed by Z8 will outlast 95% of the waxes on the market. It is super easy by hand or machine.


    :LOLOLI once mix it in under 20 Seconds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Theal
    :LOLOLI once mix it in under 20 Seconds!


    Damm you Barry! Tell me your secrets. :p
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    zaino z2pro with zfx is about the longest lasting lsp that i have used shure it seems harder to use but its not and you dont have to use the zfx every time you put a coat on.

    i have used bfwd and it dont last near as much as the zaino does but i cant speak for the other lsp`s mentioned.

    the zaio is a really good product and i use it on my wheels(chrome and painted depending on which car im cleaning) and works good on all surfaces.

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    it would be much better tho if the would make bigger bottles of the more used stuff like z16(the best i have used so far(

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    There is some amount of nicotine in ZAINO.

    I can never seem to put it down ;-}

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    Zaino is pretty expensive , I agree that there are products that are less expensive and just as effective.

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    not really . i have gone through one bottle of z2 on 25+ cars.



    dont let the size fool you

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    Zaino might cost more, but a little goes a long long way. I think many people - pros especially - just love to hate the stuff, regardless of how great the durability is.



    I find it extremely easy to use. If it`s complicated or difficult, you`re doing it wrong.

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    If you like that plastic shine go for it (Z)

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    I use it on certain colors. Yes it has it`s own look but most customers absolutely love it. It can be dificult in a very small % of cases but I think it is worth it. Also, carnubas life of protection is very short. Unless you are servicing a customer once a month it is not beneficial to that customer. They need protection to last longer.



    Just not a fan of Optimum sealants.



    I have tried almost all of them and have compared most of them side by side. At one time having ten black cars with ten different LSP`s on them sitting in a row. Z5 for sealant and PS for a nube came out on top.



    But once again it comes down to a personal preference!!



    But I don`t think there is anything about Zaino that says you can`t use it as a professional.

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    I`ve used many waxes/sealants in the last 20 years, but my recent all time favorite is Zaino. I`ve never had 1 problem with it and I find it to be the absolute easiest product to apply. I can put it on jet black paint in 95 degree full Florida sun without 1 single problem. (yes, I know others can be applied that way too). After using it the first couple times it gets easy to master its application. I like smearing in a super thin layer (barely visable) to the whole car and I remove it immediately. No whited out trim and the water beads off the surface like bullets. I also set up all my customers on a Zaino maintenance package and I get nothing but rave reviews. They actually love using their products so much that they spread the word to their friends which in turn gives me more business. I can`t say that about any of the other products I`ve recommended prior. No wonder why no other product has such a cultlike following! Oh, and Sal is one of the nicest, most personable guys you`ll find.
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    Re: Why almost no professional detailers use Zaino?

    I`ve used many waxes/sealants in the last 20 years, but my recent all time favorite is Zaino. I`ve never had 1 problem with it and I find it to be the absolute easiest product to apply. I can put it on jet black paint in 95 degree full Florida sun without 1 single problem. (yes, I know others can be applied that way too). After using it the first couple times it gets easy to master its application. I like smearing in a super thin layer (barely visable) to the whole car and I remove it immediately. No whited out trim and the water beads off the surface like bullets. I also set up all my customers on a Zaino maintenance package and I get nothing but rave reviews. They actually love using their products so much that they spread the word to their friends which in turn gives me more business. I can`t say that about any of the other products I`ve recommended prior. No wonder why no other product has such a cultlike following! Oh, and Sal is one of the nicest, most personable guys you`ll find.

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    Is this the case with Adams as well? I never see a professional detailer on this, or any other forums [except The Junkman] who use Adams polishes in their details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15951
    Zaino might cost more, but a little goes a long long way. I think many people - pros especially - just love to hate the stuff, regardless of how great the durability is.


    More like a lot of us hate the way some people push it, but that`s not why I don`t use it. Just not that impressed with it, really don`t see anything that makes it particularly special. Decent enough stuff but so are a lot of other products.



    I find it extremely easy to use. If it`s complicated or difficult, you`re doing it wrong.


    It is easy to use if you go with ZAIO + Z2/Z5 or Z-CS. But what gets pushed big time by the faithful is using ZFX`ed Z5 or Z2, 3 layers total with Z6 in between then finishing with Z8 or Z-CS. That is not a quick process at all.
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    I think um one of the few who know the junkman2000 vids.(that guy is hilarious).

    i dont know why, but I have gotten nowhere with adams

 

 
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