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    Ahh, Guido and his Cowboy Banditios strike again!! It`s good that other people than me get to see the horrible condition that these things arrive in. They do all the touch up work in an open hangar behind the factory AFAIK and I think that`s where the bumpers are also sprayed... shame, shame. I guess since detailing has become more of a profession rather than a "job" these defects from Ferrari have become more apparent, but I`m sure that they`ve been coming out of the factory like that for years. Can`t wait to see the finished products, Todd! Oh and don`t forget to send a fruit basket and grappa to Guido and the boys!
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    ^ lol to Jesse



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    Quote Originally Posted by tdekany
    I am sure it is unrelated, but I can see why Michael Schumacher would leave Ferrari. QC of this caliper is unacceptable.



    Hey, at least we all know that the car is in good hands now and will look the way it should have from the factory.


    Thanks Thomas. Here`s their QC...just slap one of these stickers on it and you`re good to go!




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    I did a California and the condition was horrible.



    Overspray. Runs on the door`s edges. Sanding marks.



    Really bad. Do not get it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accrdwgnguy
    WOW, If I had bought that car I would have sent it back. That is just terrible.


    These cars are special ordered, my client flew over to Italy last month to see it being built, and they made a placard with the owner`s signature in it, and embedded it into the dashboard...there`s no sending this one back! Once I`m finished with it, he will forget how it showed up from the factory.



    Quote Originally Posted by wfedwar
    I`ve seen a fair amount of industrial equipment that comes from Italy. In general, this stuff doesn`t surprise me. Italian quality just isn`t the same as what you`d expect from USA or Germany.


    I`ve seen Italian products across the board. They do an amazing job designing and building these beauties, but it all breaks down when they for some reason feel they need to hit it with a buffer afterwards!



    Quote Originally Posted by joshs07redss
    The worst part is that panels had been repainted and touched up. From what I`ve seen and read about Ferrari, it`s supposed to be almost perfect. Why would a 2010 need to be repainted? Hmm....


    They probably needed to repaint a section or two because of the person that did the buffing!



    Quote Originally Posted by yakky
    I`ve had a chance to look at a few Ferraris up close and the paintwork is on par to that of an AVERAGE body shop, its really a shame. They say they are "hand painted", whatever that means.


    As David says below...their stuff is actually pretty good. It`s just the untrained guy working with a dirty wool pad in the "buffing department" that makes it all go wrong.



    Now if you`re talking about older Ferraris, that`s a whole different story. The paint on most of those was awful. They looked good from far, but far from good.



    Quote Originally Posted by David Fermani
    I`d have to say their paint quality is way BETTER than 99.9% of body shops actually. It`s the guido`s @ the factory with orders to make everything flat where their skill set is unjustifiable. Also, these cars aren`t painted by hand:



    YouTube - Ferrari Fiorano 599 GTB National Geographic EspaƱol parte 3 de 5



    Great save Todd! I`m sure you`ll give this one the attention it deserves.


    Thanks David, and cool video.



    Quote Originally Posted by youngbro401
    I`m sure that a lot of the damage occurred once it left the factory. Who really knows what the "flight" over from Italy was really like.


    If you read Appollo`s reply below, this kind of stuff is pretty standard unfortunately. This isn`t the result of the initial factory paint, but it is the result of their final prep department before it got shipped.



    Quote Originally Posted by rcrobbins
    That`s a shame. My guess is they burned through the right corner on the bumper, touched it up and back taped it with a material that wasn`t solvent proof. That big circle pattern looks like the pattern from the UV drying/curing device that`s placed over the touched up clear coat (Spies HeckerYouTube - Speed repair for minor damages - UV technology - Spies Hecker). Also, what DA are you using in that picture? Looks nifty for getting in tight places and reduced pigtails from trash.


    Actually that area is not the repainted part! The front left fender had been repainted, as well as a few inches at the front edge of the driver`s door.



    That D/A is from a 3M headlight restoration kit...very useful tool!



    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKleven
    I have detailed many new Ferrari`s for new car detail, but this one is about as bad as I`ve seen. The pigtails, and swirl marks all over are pretty normal, but overspray, and touch up, that sounds like aftermarket paintwork. The paint was super dry on the edge of the fender, that`s not factory.



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    Yeah, definitely not "original".



    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo_Auto
    Ahh, Guido and his Cowboy Banditios strike again!! It`s good that other people than me get to see the horrible condition that these things arrive in. They do all the touch up work in an open hangar behind the factory AFAIK and I think that`s where the bumpers are also sprayed... shame, shame. I guess since detailing has become more of a profession rather than a "job" these defects from Ferrari have become more apparent, but I`m sure that they`ve been coming out of the factory like that for years. Can`t wait to see the finished products, Todd! Oh and don`t forget to send a fruit basket and grappa to Guido and the boys!


    If anybody would know Jesse it would be you. As I started to discover all of this, I thought: "I need to get these photos to Jesse!"



    Yeah, Guido and the boys have helped me make quite a few mortgage payments lately so I`ll be sure to put them on my Christmas list.



    Quote Originally Posted by MuttGrunt
    ^ lol to Jesse



    Todd, I can`t wait to see what you do to her. No doubt it`s going to be some serious eye-candy


    I certainly hope to bring this beast to the level of finish that it deserves...stay tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Fermani
    I`d have to say their paint quality is way BETTER than 99.9% of body shops actually. It`s the guido`s @ the factory with orders to make everything flat where their skill set is unjustifiable. Also, these cars aren`t painted by hand:



    YouTube - Ferrari Fiorano 599 GTB National Geographic EspaƱol parte 3 de 5



    Great save Todd! I`m sure you`ll give this one the attention it deserves.


    Well, depends on what your definition of average is. However, compared to other cars that cost 1/10 as much, their paint is not on par.

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    Jesse cracks me up with quips "banditos" and so forth, yes "marenello" has always had fit and finish problems and guess what ...... THEY DON`T CARE. 599`s seem to be the worse along with the 07 model year 430`s, there is an area on the 599`s where the "C pillar" blends in the rear quarter panel and there are always heavy pigtails BEHIND this panel next to the rear glass trim and needless to say it is almost impossible to correct in this area.



    The vehicles with the most consistant fit and finish imho is Lexus, I do not get alot of them to do but everyone I have worked on is tightness along with Rolls Royce. Honorable mention for paint "issues" is Aston Martin....... gorgeous car but hammeredness everytime!!!!.



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    That is just unacceptable...



    Can`t wait to see the finished product!

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    Wow that`s horrible. Looking forward to the afters.. I know you`ll make it look like "insert word that should mean new here" :xyxthumbs
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    Sad that they let them get out like this... Good they found you Todd



    What are you going to say when you waited 2 years for a car.. Are you going to send it back because of the paint??? Ferrari doesn`t sell cars on the merits of the paitwork and the attitude is that you are just lucky to even get a Ferrari... I`ve seen the same type on defects of the F-cars I have worked on... Even saw an eye lash in the headlight housing... funny
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    What a shame.







    Can`t wait to see the final pics Todd! :xyxthumbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deep Gloss Auto Salon
    Sad that they let them get out like this... Good they found you Todd



    What are you going to say when you waited 2 years for a car.. Are you going to send it back because of the paint??? Ferrari doesn`t sell cars on the merits of the paitwork and the attitude is that you are just lucky to even get a Ferrari... I`ve seen the same type od defects of the F-cars I have worked on... Even saw an eye lash ion the headlight housing... funny


    Well put! They`ve always been about performance, styling, and engineering.

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    Thanks for the concern everybody! Those of us that have been around new Ferraris know that this is pretty common. I merely wanted to post this up so that other detailers (that haven`t experienced new Ferraris yet) can get a good idea of what they can possibly expect.



    My client is a super nice guy, and a very good customer. I called him up to come over and have a look at it when I started working on the car, and he shook his head, and just told me to make it right.



    The goal is to do just that for him...make it right.

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    Todd - we all know you will make it right:buffing:

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    Wow, I`m really dumbfounded by this. The dealership would hate me because I`d make their lives miserable. I guess the other part that makes me upset is that it`s considered fairly standard and people accept it.

 

 
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