Any Experience??

**Got More Wax** · 08-07-2009, 08:41 AM

Hey guys, looking for a little help. I have a client who has taken delivery of a new car and I am going to perform a complete correction starting Monday. The car is a Pagani Zonda. I`ve never even seen one. So, just wondering if anyone has expereince with the paint and might know what I can expect - cerami or whatever??

Thanks!!

Andy

**RaskyR1** · 08-07-2009, 08:46 AM

Are your serious? That car is teh sex!

**imported_JoshVette** · 08-07-2009, 10:08 AM

Never taken deliver of a Zonda but I have of a few other cars and I would tell you to expect about 5 hours of work for just a basic detail (not to mention paint correction) as you will have to pull the plastic from interior and exterior and with the interior you have to be very gentle or you`ll just rip it out leaving some behind in hard to reach areas.

Thoroughly decontaminate the exterior with the clay as there will be a lot of gunk everywhere from the long journey.

Document everything so the owner will know if somethings wrong that you didn`t do it and don`t be surprised if you have pigtails, buffer trails or anything else in the paint.

Josh

**David Fermani** · 08-07-2009, 11:00 AM

It really shouldn`t matter what kind of paint it is. I don`t know any Pros that set themselves up for specific vehicles based on paint type. Every vehicle`s paint is different and one`s mileage and knowledge will vary. There are some ceramics that correct and finish easy and some don`t. Because this car is hand built, it most likely won`t have ceramic clear. Bring as much sandpaper, compound, polish and pads with you as you can and if the owner is willing to pay you enough - do your very best.

**imported_JoshVette** · 08-07-2009, 03:13 PM

I agree with David, if all the owner cares about is making the car in concourse condition then be prepared to take it to that level.

Just cause it`s new doesn`t mean it`s in perfect shape.

Josh

**Got More Wax** · 08-07-2009, 03:39 PM

Yeah, I appreciate the comments. This client has paid us $2k+ for some of his other cars. I have no worries about what he is willing to pay. I`m interested in any experience anybody may have had with this car. I know it`s a carbon body car and am looking for info on the paint - four stage, cerami, etc.

Thanks!!

Andy

**David Fermani** · 08-07-2009, 05:00 PM

No offense Andy, but if you`re charging someone that kind of money, you should have enough skill in place to realize there`s no magic product formula for paint correction. Can you explain why and how it will matter if it`s single stage, base clear, 3 or 4 stage ceramic paint on top of metal, carbon fiber, fiberglass, alloy or magnesium? I don`t think it really does and I`ve never seen any Pro ask such unimportant questions. Playing devil`s advocate, care to let us know how you`d approach this car`s paint differently if someone told you it was 4 stage, ceramic or plain old base clear?

**Got More Wax** · 08-07-2009, 05:03 PM

Yeah, thanks again for your intent to agitate and start some senseless nonsense. Again, if anyone has had any experience with these cars, please feel free to shoot me a PM or post some contributive info.

Thanks!!

Andy

Originally Posted by David Fermani

No offense Andy, but if you`re charging someone that kind of money, you should have enough skill in place to realize there`s no magic product formula for paint correction. Can you explain why and how it will matter if it`s single stage, base clear, 3 or 4 stage ceramic paint on top of metal, carbon fiber, fiberglass, alloy or magnesium? I don`t think it really does and I`ve never seen any Pro ask such unimportant questions. Playing devil`s advocate, care to let us know how you`d approach this car`s paint differently if someone told you it was 4 stage, ceramic or plain old base clear?

**David Fermani** · 08-07-2009, 05:10 PM

Sorry, just trying to learn. Try asking this guy:

extreme detail: Pagani Zonda *New Pics Added* - Detailing World

Make sure you take lots of pics, can`t wait to see this amazing car!

**Got More Wax** · 08-07-2009, 05:15 PM

Thanks for the PM, Phil!!!! The reply I received touched on exactly the areas I had interest in...my Positector doesn`t read composite , nice to get an idea of what type and how thick I can expect the paint to be!!

Andy

**imported_JoshVette** · 08-07-2009, 07:55 PM

Good luck with it, I`m sure you`ll make it perfect.

When you`re done with it, let us know if the paint is hard or soft, I`m curious too.

Thanks,

Josh

**Got More Wax** · 08-07-2009, 08:23 PM

Thanks for the reply, Josh! I`m just really anxious to see this car!!

Andy

Originally Posted by JoshVette

Good luck with it, I`m sure you`ll make it perfect.

When you`re done with it, let us know if the paint is hard or soft, I`m curious too.

Thanks,

Josh