"well i can just go to carspa"

**imported_Detailing Technology** · 01-21-2008, 07:09 PM

Don`t be mistaken. I know people have bills to pay and cant always "pick and choose" what work they want to take. Most jobs will be the $250 mini-van with no gratification once completed. I also know not all areas of the country have people that want to spend $$$more money than is realistic to have their car cleaned. I just knifed this niche in my area because I WANTED IT. I needed a little fun outlet like this to work. I make it a point to make the clients believe they should not have their car detailed by anyone else.

My model is a part-time model. One of my clients asked me to do a quick clean-up of his sons M3 when he was home for winter break last week. I told him, no problem Ill be over to pick it up. He wanted just a wash and wax, I told him I personally couldn`t do it, but I would get it done for him. I contacted a local shop I have just made an alliance with and drive the car there. The shop knows what type of work I expect and we have an agreement. I paid the shop owner our agreed $250.00 for a clean-up and I charged my customer $400. The customer is happy, actually thrilled he didn`t have to waste time driving cars around with his son all day. I do the same service for body work and mechanical service with my regulars. I just cant say no to money if people want to spend it.

**TTWAGN** · 01-21-2008, 07:17 PM

"The last 4 cars i detailed each cost over $100,000.. they would never take their car to carspa"

"Whens the last time you`ve seen a Ferrari at car spa? well i`ve detailed two this week alone"

"Do you want a 14 year old washing your car? Well i suppose your car isn`t a Ferrari so you wouldn`t care"

"Feel free to get car spa to rub silicone oil all over your dash. In a few years when it cracks and will cost $1000 to replace all of a sudden my services seem much cheaper."

Best thing i like to do is get a thin plastic bag and do the claybar test. One microfibre, quick detailer and a claybar is all you need to show the customer. Rub the paint hard and show how no matter how hard you rub with a sponge you can not remove the roughness. The thin plastic bag will amplify the roughness. Then you quickly clay the surface and then show the customer again. They will be blown away by the smoothness.

Then explain that you will clay the entire car. Also explain that most places do not even know what a claybar is. Then explain the shops that do re-use the claybar 100 times as they are expensive and this will increase the chances of scratching. Say that you use a fresh piece of clay on every car so no scratches are added to the paint. Then explain this is why the price is higher but your services are so much higher quality than carspa that you cannot compare the two.

I`d even tell them that if they dont plan on keeping the car for a long time they may as well take it to car spa as they may sell the car by the time the dash cracks and the paint becomes scratched. That would actually be honest, as its not cost effective doing a big detail on a brand new car that they will be selling in a year or two. However by saying this if the customer plans on keeping the car for a long period of time you have guranteed they will now be a customer, by being honest that your services aren`t for everyone.

**imported_JoshVette** · 01-21-2008, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by baseballlover1

Man Josh! You really know what you are talking about here! lol... I feel like an idiot! I am defiantly going to keep an eye on this thread because i have to be able to beet these hacks verbally! Im defenatly remembering about the oil based products on leather and vinyl and all the other stuff you said!

Just keep reading and listening and researching.....

The more you know about how these car products work the better off you are. I always try to find ways to compare it all to skin care since poeple can really relate to that, plus it really is a lot like skin care. Sealants are like Sunblock, claybar is kind of like exfoliation....etc...etc.....

Seems to work well for the clients and people I`ve talked to.

**howareb** · 01-21-2008, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by JoshVette

Just keep reading and listening and researching.....

The more you know about how these car products work the better off you are. I always try to find ways to compare it all to skin care since poeple can really relate to that, plus it really is a lot like skin care. Sealants are like Sunblock, claybar is kind of like exfoliation....etc...etc.....

Seems to work well for the clients and people I`ve talked to.

OK Josh, next you are going to start a cosmetic line.

Just Jokin. Josh is 100% on this one, people have to be able to relate to something they know. Skin car seems to be the closet fit.

**imported_JoshVette** · 01-21-2008, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by jsatek

1 car = $700.00. I only provide one service to my customers, a full detail.

I have a F/T business, non-car related, which I run during the week that keeps me fully exhausted from M-F. I just love to clean cars, I cant help it.

At $700 per visit, its currently not debatable by my wife as a waste of a Saturday or Sunday. I give her the money I make detailing to spend as she likes, minus supplies.

Nice:xyxthumbs

What do you do for that price?? full paint correction or just a good clay, sealant and interior??

Sounds like a nice set up the way you`re doing it.

**imported_JoshVette** · 01-21-2008, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by howareb

OK Josh, next you are going to start a cosmetic line.

Just Jokin. Josh is 100% on this one, people have to be able to relate to something they know. Skin car seems to be the closet fit.

:lol

I drank some Zaino the other day and it really seemed to keep the plaque off a lot better then brushing alone....:spot

**imported_hockeyplaya13** · 01-21-2008, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by JoshVette

:lol

I drank some Zaino the other day and it really seemed to keep the plaque off a lot better then brushing alone....:spot

LMAO!!! :har:

**howareb** · 01-21-2008, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by JoshVette

:lol

I drank some Zaino the other day and it really seemed to keep the plaque off a lot better then brushing alone....:spot

I heard that if you rinse for about a minute that you do not need to brush at all for at least 6-9 months. Now that is technology.

**baseballlover1** · 01-21-2008, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by TTWAGN

"Do you want a 14 year old washing your car? Well i suppose your car isn`t a Ferrari so you wouldn`t care"

Whats wrong with a 14 year old washing a car, or better yet whats wrong with a 14 year old doing a full detail on a car?

**asleepz** · 01-21-2008, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by baseballlover1

Whats wrong with a 14 year old washing a car, or better yet whats wrong with a 14 year old doing a full detail on a car?

The typical un-informed 14 yr old. Not an autopian 14 year old.

**imported_JoshVette** · 01-21-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by baseballlover1

Whats wrong with a 14 year old washing a car, or better yet whats wrong with a 14 year old doing a full detail on a car?

Daniel, I don`t think he was talking about you at all, I think he was just making a general statement. (Remember probably no other 14 year old knows how to do what you do)

**boogiejoe** · 01-21-2008, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by jsatek

2. I give an experience. (Im now adding the exfoliating analogy to my sales pitch) I resurface the factory clear coat then shield it form the elements with highly-engineered boutique lotions. I vaporize dirt and debris from the engine, carpets, and seating surfaces. Post sealing, I hand apply pure carnauba wax which is stored at 42 degrees Fahrenheit to slow the molecular decomposition and improve surface adhesion. I deliver all cars under 500 Watt halogens and go panel by panel with the client. I point out all defects I could not correct before the client does. I also give them a bottle of Z-8 and 2 microfibers to wipe the car down with should they need to.

You actually use these terms? Vaporize dirt? Molecular decomposition? Do you have a ray gun that you use when detailing?

What happens when the wax returns to room temperature after the application?

I commend your success. Sounds like you are selling carpet. If it works for you, don`t change. I know that 700 is a drop in the bucket for the traders you work with. They`ll pay that in commisions/desk fees in less than an hour.

**baseballlover1** · 01-21-2008, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by JoshVette

Daniel, I don`t think he was talking about you at all, I think he was just making a general statement. (Remember probably no other 14 year old knows how to do what you do)

you flatter me, lol :woohoo: :grinno:

**Dirt_Turbo** · 01-21-2008, 11:30 PM

im 17 and i really want to detail this RX8, it always stays there in 1 postion never moved and cleaned sometimes the owner does a **** house job waxing it but i want to do it for $50 and i really need the cash, how would you go by offering him my back yarder service im scared i will get bashed

**imported_JoshVette** · 01-21-2008, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Dirt_Turbo

im 17 and i really want to detail this RX8, it always stays there in 1 postion never moved and cleaned sometimes the owner does a **** house job waxing it but i want to do it for $50 and i really need the cash, how would you go by offering him my back yarder service im scared i will get bashed

So for $50 bucks what are you going to do for his car??