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On a scale of 1-10, how does everyone rate the z2 pro and z8 slickness?
I would imagine UPP right after application to be the 10.
I might be having humidity issues, because it doesnt matter how often i z8, it is not slick much at all. It is very smooth, not slick though. My MF is grabby, and often twists up under itself.
On a scale 1-10 i would put a fresh application of z8 at 6 or 7.
It does look good though, and beads water like #16 :) :xyxthumbs
I`m sorry to hear that you`re having slickness issues. Based on my experiences with Z5/Z2 Pro,Z6,Z8 I rate Zaino a 9+ for slickness. But then again, slickness isn`t really an important factor for me. I really don`t want anyone touching my paint & marring it. I choose to use Zaino for the look, protection, durability & longevity. How was your prep process prior to applying the Z?
Well, i am very happy with the results. I want to get to the bottom of the slickness, not for any other reason than i know it should be slicker, and i want to improve my techniques.
I prepped with 3m PI 3000 SMR
3 drops of zfx in about 1 oz or less of z2pro
misted the little cotton applicator i got with z6
put a dime size amount on pad, and wiped it on as thin as i could
re applyed z6 when applicator dried out alittle
I wasnt too impressed with the cotton applicator, next time i will use a foam one.
I did 3x coats with z6 inbetween. Applied to an f-150 extra cab, when i was done i buffed off each time. No waiting.
Next day i spray and wiped, then applied z8
Today i washed with, i dunno- the zaino soap, and z8 again.
All i can think of is its really humid here.
But yes, it looks very good :)
For whatever reason, the slickness of my application of Zaino on my fiberglass car was not as good as on my Merc. On the Merc I`d rate it 8-9, and on the fiberglass car 7-8. I`m going to strip everything off and give it another try to make sure it wasn`t a fluke.
Z2-Pro and ESPECIALLY Z8 need time to cure. Z8 really hardens up after a few days. Slickness seems to improve, as does shine. Give it a week after you are done layering, without touching the paint, and then see if it improves.
Currently, I find FMJ to be the slickest product I`ve tried, with consistent slickness on all of my cars. UPP is just a notch below that. Somewhere around 9, with a bit more slickness than Zaino.
With Z2-Pro, Z8, and Z6 between washes, there`s little to complain about in the slickness area, even if it`s not quite as good as FMJ. It will last much longer than the slickness of FMJ or UPP as well.
- J
I find that after a couple days when everything has had a chance to cure, the gloss comes up a notch and slickness elevates also.
I find that Z2 Pro/Z8 is amazingly slick on my car. It has to be around a "9.5" for slickness. Beads up nicely too and the bugs wash right off. :bow
I give Z2 Pro a 7-8 by itself...with Z8 on top, I give it an 8-9.
Without oil/silicone as a lube a surface slickness is directly related to the "nude" surface quality. If the unprotected surface is slick the addition of a completely oil-free LSP and subsequent booster (Z6 or Z8) should only add to this prepped surface but not to a level of a oil/silicone lubed surface.
A more accurate comparison of a oil/silicone containing LSP with an oil/silicone-free product slickness should be done after a few days (oil/silicone allowed to dissipate and both sealants are completely cured) and after that first wash.
This will indicate what the "true" unlubed surface really feels like.
All poly MF`s are not created equal. I have some grabbie ones and some that act like a super hi-quality natural fiber MF like DF Towel (non-grabbie) that will literally fly out your hand when applying Z8 if one is not careful. ;)
Thats a great result of Zaino: stuff flying everywhere, out of your hand, off the surface!!Quote:
Originally Posted by blkZ28Conv
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