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Nick,
You stated in your "Top of the Line Detail" thread that you experienced some vibration using the Edge 2000 Pads with a 6" counter weight. Additionally you mentioned that you spoke with Aaron about it on Saturday regarding a possible solution. Could you please expand upon that? I just received my Edge 2000 pads for my PC and if possible I`d like to know what issues (if any) that I may encounter. How do you like the pads compared to others?
Thanks.
JLM
Sure jlm--
I`ll use this as my thread for the testing I did. Pictures will have to come a little later, but they are of the pads I have.
Aaron had stated that others experienced vibration with the new DA 2000 Pads and asked what my take was on it. There is a bit more vibration occuring, I will say that. However, if you`ve used the PC for a good bit of time, you can get used to it. I guess I`ve just put a lot of hours on the 3 that I`ve had, so it wasn`t a major factor to me.
Aaron suggested using a 5" and a 6" weight with new screws, however, someone just told me that it didn`t fix the problem.
First off, the new Durafoam blows away the pads I have used in the past, even the original Edge DA pads. It is softer and seems to be cleaning up easier and better. I like not having a backing plate now, as I can use the sides of the pad. This comes into play when trying to get into tight spots like grills and below mirrors.
After initial use, I did not have any problems with the threads coming apart, but after the caution email, I have used ThreadLock on the adapter.
As for cleaning, they clean up very well. Using Don`s suggestion for months now, I use Murphy`s Oil Soap to clean the pads. On wax and sealant pads, I use a couple squirts of Greezed Lightning to make sure the product breaks down. Degreasers used to be the deadly factor to velcro adhesive. I`m glad I`m not dealing with that anymore.
I personally like the height of the pads, and quick connect is awesome. I have a yellow/blue pad that works sweet. See the Poorboy`s Edge M5 thread for more results.
I tried the 5", 6" and piggyback combos, for the short time I tried them all seemed to vibrate more than my LC 7.5" pads/6" backplate. Anything above speed 4.5 seemed like more vibration than the LC at speed 6. I have a feeling it because of the physics of the pad being 2-3" from the PC. It seems like the forces make the PC/pad "wobble" around on the paint, thus making it hard to control.
Maybe Aaron can experiment with a shorty adapter to bring the pad close to the PC? Personally I just ordered a rotary to hopefully cut down on my "PC at speed 6" operating time.
hey man, maye you want to get that thread lock like nick got. i had a bad experience (it was my fault), but i would think, the wobbling is a perquisite of the threads falling apart. just wanted to make sure you guys dont experience anything bad.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I`ll be trying my Edge 2000 pads on Thursday/Friday. I`ll use the ThreadLock just to be safe. Afterwards I`ll post my review with some pictures.
JLM
Thanks for the heads up. Without going into full detail, I am fully aware the Loctite is needed. Those that choose not to use it are "rolling the dice" so to speak.Quote:
Originally posted by zesty-man
hey man, maye you want to get that thread lock like nick got. i had a bad experience (it was my fault), but i would think, the wobbling is a perquisite of the threads falling apart. just wanted to make sure you guys dont experience anything bad.
I`ve only tried the E2K DA pads with the 6" counterweight. I also find the vibration to be a bit harsh above speed 4.5. However, the connection system and the quality of the foam are quite good. I trust that Aaron and his folks are working hard to find a remedy for the vibration issue. In the meantime, I plan to use the E2K system for much of my light polishing and sealant application tasks. If I need to do some higher speed buffing, I will switch to a velcro plate and pads. I`m also seriously considering learning how to use a rotary.
I just ordered a Makita 9227 :)
Aaron actually kinda talked me into. He had the "The PC is not really meant to correct paint" talk with me :lol
I`m tired of stuggling for hours to remove even minor swirls with DACP, cutting pad and the PC at hand numbing speed.
That`s the model I`m considering too. I don`t normally need the corrective action of a rotary since I mainly just work on my own well maintained cars. However, I periodically detail cars for friends and family which sometimes requires more buffing power. Just the other day, I tried to fix the damage from a "parking lot encounter" on my neighbor`s car. While I got 90% of the marks off with several passes of my PC, I think I could have addressed that last 10% with a rotary. If I decide to give the rotary a try, I will definitely purchase a set of the E2K rotary pads.Quote:
Originally posted by wifehatescar
I just ordered a Makita 9227 :)
Aaron actually kinda talked me into. He had the "The PC is not really meant to correct paint" talk with me :lol
I`m tired of stuggling for hours to remove even minor swirls with DACP, cutting pad and the PC at hand numbing speed.
Anyone up for a Makita 9227 Group Buy?
If the price is right, count me in.Quote:
Originally posted by Nickc0844
Anyone up for a Makita 9227 Group Buy?
Here is a link to the Group Buy I started
Makita Group Buy
How have the results been for y`all this last week? It`s rained here 22/24 days OUCH!