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SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
I’m on the cusp of finishing a correction on my Acura TSX.
For the horizontal panels I wanted to test my new Nv spray sealants Nova Jet and Nova Lustre against two heavy hitting favorites, Cosmic Spritz and Kamikaze Overcoat.
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Prep:
The horizontal panels have been stripped with Kleen-Strip Prep-All, then coated with Pinnacle fine grade, polished with Megs Ultimate Polish, prepped with Prep-All again and then DP Coating Prep Polish.
Then the front 1/3 of the hood had Essence Extreme applied. The hood will test these 4 products on bare paint and Essence Extreme. The middle 1.5” tape strip and each side of the hood to the right of the indentations will serve as control areas (front 1/3 Essence; back 2/3 bare paint). So each product will be adjacent to a control area.
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Observations during application:
1) Application
Overcoat - applies extremely thin, almost invisible, barely needs extra buff after initial wipe
Cosmic - super thick, quick flash, easy if immediate wipe off
Lustre - spreads far with slower flash time, applies super slick
Jet -kind of slick, wipes easily, pretty normal (run of the mill) in all aspects of application.
The Nv products come out much thicker, so it seems like more is used. These have slower flash times and didn’t seem like immediate wipe off was required. Jet spread slickly. Lustre spread with more resistance. But see slickness below.
2) Slickness
Cosmic, Jet and Overcoat - Pretty slick
Lustre - Extremely slick
The roof then had DP Coating applied (very slick). Here, the four products will be tested on top of the coating, with 1.5” tape strips serving as the control (DP Coating) areas between each product.
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6cd7e77f.plist
BONUS:
I also DP coated the trunk and applied my leader from another spray test (IGL Premier) versus 3 sprays I’ve not used yet: Drexler Top Coat Care, Griots 3-in-1, DPC Armor.
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Observations during application:
1) Application:
IGL - spreads well, no streaks, not super slick
Drexler - almost invisible, no streaks, not slick
DPC - thick, strong bubble gum odor, buffs away easily
Griots- spreads well, no streaks
2) Slickness:
IGL - Fairly slick
Drexler - Not slick
DPC - Most slick
Griots - Very slick
I will update application thoughts during second coat applications tonight. My wife promised she will take real time notes for me, which solves my biggest problem during applications (lack of scribe).
As is typical, I’ll be monitoring these over time with water tests and any other obvious observations.
Thanks for reading.
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@William_Wallace, @BudgetPlan1, @The Guz, @coatings=crack, anyone else with any requests (red text) before I move forward tonight?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
acuRAS82
@William_Wallace, @BudgetPlan1, @The Guz, @coatings=crack, anyone else with any requests (red text) before I move forward tonight?
Believe it or not, I got nuthin` [emoji1]
Can`t think of anything in particular [emoji33]
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I can’t think of anything else.
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All good homeslice thanks for testing
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You’ve covered most of what i could think of. Interested in rhe nova products. Thanks for testing. I’m betting that griots will surprise you.
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the Griot’s I’ve been trying to resist buying it but for 20 seems like a great deal. Love the testing.
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I loves me some PA but for $20 its close. Very underrated product
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SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
After the second coat of each product, I expanded on my application and slickness thoughts in the OP (where applicable).
They all look great. I always find it hard to compare small areas of products to each other. But particularly in my garage it’s not worth it.
But if I had to pick the one product that I kept staring at, mesmerized... it would be Overcoat. It’s sharp, high-resolution features really stand out even under my garage lighting. It’s also noticeable that Cosmic does not have the same sharpness which is pretty consistent with the notion that Cosmic appears almost like a wax with it’s warm, softer look.
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Kinda my thoughts too ond Cosmic vs Overcoat on uncoated black paint. I felt OC kinda had that sharp gloss of a coating and Cosmic like a luxe carnauba.
I rhink i got the notion from budget and he says its probably in my mind but cosmic over OC [emoji106]
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Too early in my mind since OC is still new to me but I really like the application nd obviously the look caught my eye. I love me my High Gloss (including HG on Cosmic Spritz) and OC gives me some reminders of HG... that vivid, high definition look.
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Great test will be following this with interest [emoji106]
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First water behavior shots, after on and off rain of varying intensities yesterday. These pics were like 30 mins after one of the rains:
Hood:
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...539d6bc45e.jpg
Passenger side control:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...13109fa1dc.jpg
Jet
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4ce9f31f12.jpg
Lustre:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...31dcc4202d.jpg
Cosmic:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4a8c40778d.jpg
Overcoat
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a167b180f8.jpg
Drivers side control:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...859054706d.jpg
And then the roof with these on DP Coating, order reversed since pic is from the back (left to right is Overcoat, Cosmic, Lustre, Jet):
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...529dd98d66.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...8a8d7b0422.jpg
Back Trunk:
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...67ce8f4b86.jpg
IGL:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...822f12e02b.jpg
Drexler:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...73f4c6616b.jpg
DPC:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...42424a5635.jpg
Griots:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ead102befc.jpg
I’m disappointed with the consistency of distance/angle in which my pics are taken. Next time will be better. I’ll give more detailed thoughts later but here is quick initial thoughts:
Jet is on par head to head with Cosmic and OC. Cosmic sheeted the rain away best (dryest panel). Jet’s beads have a very light look to them, not much shadow around the base, almost transparent. Interesting.
Drexler may also be on par with the big three on the hood, harder to tell not being right next to them on similar panels but looks great, it’s the best on the trunk. IGL is second best beads on trunk. Griots 3rd. DPC isn’t a great beader although super slick.
Oh, and the car looks pretty nice prior to the rain:
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Originally Posted by
BudgetPlan1
Jet looks interesting.
Yes, I gave thoughts about the hood, but on the roof where these are on top of DP Coating, Jet sheeted the best. Either way, it’s a great water performer in the very, very early going.
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Update 9/12/20 (3 weeks)
These pics were taken in the morning after a rain consistent rain period:
Hood:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cf701b8d.plist
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...37c19fc381.jpg
Jet
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...50271d9f.plist
Lustre:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ce45141d11.jpg
Cosmic:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0fd2a1d1f7.jpg
Overcoat
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5e007ccf13.jpg
Jet probably has the smallest beads. Standing up to Cosmic and Overcoat nicely so far.
Lustre doesn’t really belong in a beat beading/sheeting (water behavior) showdown.
And then the roof with these on DP Coating, order reversed since pic is from the back (left to right is Overcoat, Cosmic, Lustre, Jet):
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...529dd98d66.jpg
None, nothing special to share here.
Back Trunk:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d7308596e5.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a2dcd610.plist
IGL:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9a0872793f.jpg
Drexler:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...22a35636d9.jpg
DPC:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...fa4c636e81.jpg
Griots:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...45e4dbcee9.jpg
Griots has the smallest beads and I’ll give it the lead here. IGL and Drexler close behind. All 3 of these sheet at similar speed right now.
DPC Armor doesn’t belong in the best water behavior contest.
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SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
Update 10/10/20 (7 weeks)
These pics were taken today before a wash. General update to show longevity comparisons. I didn’t take individual beading beauty shots, just pics of hose-induced sheeting, every few seconds after the hose is turned off.
Hood:
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For the hood I then did the same pics after a wash with Reset... similar results but everything sheeted faster (hood was probably dirtiest part of the car):
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Sheeting Ranks:
T-1) Overcoat
T-1) Cosmic
3) Jet
4) Lustre (dead)
Jet kept up with Overcoat and Cosmic for the first 6 weeks I’d guess, but here it looks to be slowing down a step. It would still look impressive on it’s own. I like it, no shame in losing a step on OC and Cosmic.
Lustre is done, or at least 80% done if I’m guessing theoretically.
And then the roof with these on DP Coating, order reversed since pic is from the back (left to right is Overcoat, Cosmic, Lustre, Jet):
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...529dd98d66.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b6e38b25bd.jpg
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Sheeting Ranks (on DP Coating)
1) Overcoat
2) Jet
3) Cosmic
4) Lustre
Everything on the roof sheets faster than on the bare paint on the hood. Makes sense since toppers seem to perform a bit better on coatings (even given DP Coating seems pretty unsubstantial).
Jet looks nearly as good as Overcoat here (except Overcoat literally sheds water the moment the hose goes off. I put Cosmic slightly behind but it may be at a disadvantage due to location closer to middle of the roof.
Lustre does not look dead on the roof, so it’s either bonding to the coating better than paint, or it is dying and the coating underneath is taking over.
Back Trunk:
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Sheeting Ranks
T-1) IGL, Drexler, Griots
4) Armor
Water just flies off the trunk, it must not have been very dirty.
I have the three tied, water can’t hang on. DPC Armor isn’t completely dead but I’m guessing 60-70% done. And wasn’t the best water behavior to begin with.
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SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
I apologize, the first picture of the roof in post #18 as well as a few other update posts was meant to be the reference photo.
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You nailed it with this thread I saw it when you posted it but never read through it or somehow missed your updates.
I think you had good head to heads for the products you chose. Drexel looked good too...a nice little surprise. If your searching for the next bead monster spray topper ....SiRamik SC-Mist is top level beading from what I have seen in forensic detail videos. I have not used it personally
Sometimes when I use Meguiar HCW I could swear the beading is almost as good as some of these products then other times it’s average.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
William_Wallace
You nailed it with this thread I saw it when you posted it but never read through it or somehow missed your updates.
I think you had good head to heads for the products you chose. Drexel looked good too...a nice little surprise. If your searching for the next bead monster spray topper ....SiRamik SC-Mist is top level beading from what I have seen in forensic detail videos. I have not used it personally
Sometimes when I use Meguiar HCW I could swear the beading is almost as good as some of these products then other times it’s average.
AcuRAS82 any update on this?
@William_Wallace - SC Mist is a pretty formidable and good all round product to be honest. It`s party trick is it`s chemical resistance and it`s actually pretty slick for the substantial product it is. As for beading, a step behind Cosmic having had them all on a test panel, gloss not quite as blingy.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
atbalfour
AcuRAS82 any update on this?
Update coming soon. Pics taken an hour ago.
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Update 11/5/2020 (2.5 months):
Hood:
Washed with Reset, flat spray setting hose test, pics taken a few seconds apart, with final pic at around 10 seconds:
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...07f50f9444.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6dc43dbf54.jpg
Once again:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...751dc37dc8.jpg
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Water shedding & overall behavior ranks (my opinion):
1a) Overcoat
1b) Cosmic (barely behind Overcoat, if not equal)
3) Jet (way behind and probably 80-85% dead)
4) Lustre (long gone)
I’m at the point of needing to decide if I end the hood portion of the test. It’s down to Cosmic vs Overcoat which may go on for weeks/months; and I suppose there is some insight to gain in seeing how long Jet hangs on. But I don’t want the hood unprotected once winter salt starts. Right now the boundary lines between product areas, the left and right sides of the hood, and the Lustre area are unprotected.
So I’m either going to
- put Cancoat on these unprotected areas,
Or
- same as above plus where Jet occupies
Or
- put Cancoat on the entire hood and call this done
Any opinions while I decide are welcome.
Cool Observation:
There is a line that can be seen after rinsing which shows where dead Lustre on bare paint meets dead Lustre that was on Essence. I thought this was neat to show that although Essence isn’t hydrophobic, water repels better off of the Essence area than the bare paint.
Left side of the picture is dead Lustre on bare paint (middle hood). Right side is seemingly dead Lustre that was on Essence (front hood):
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SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
Update #2 11/5/2020 (2.5 months):
Trunk:
Washed with Reset, hose test on flat spray setting, pics taken a few seconds apart, final pic around 10 seconds:
Reference
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ecfb0a2c65.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ceaa3a23.plist
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...1ec49678.plist
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6a2eb3dc.plist
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...c9ef8424.plist
Once again:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e321b21b86.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...7b0a3d6069.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...aa14686670.jpg
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3b692208.plist
All three besides DPC looking great! I’ve sprayed from all different angles and at any given angle, each product wins equal amounts. I’m going 3-way tie here again:
T-1) IGL, Drexler, Griots 3-1
4) DPC (hanging by a thread)
I will let this trunk testing continue on into winter until there’s a clear winner. But might be covering up the DPC with Cancoat, which obviously won’t be part of the competition.
Roof:
I’m done reporting on the roof. It’s too hard to judge toppers on a mediocre coating, and not worth taking roof pictures which is annoying. Test over, no clear observations.
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Are there any spray products that can hold a candle to PA CS or KK Overcoat? IGL premier looks like it`s holding up ok, albeit on a less exposed part of the car?
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Originally Posted by
atbalfour
Are there any spray products that can hold a candle to PA CS or KK Overcoat? IGL premier looks like it`s holding up ok, albeit on a less exposed part of the car?
Not including true coating lites like Cancoat... my guess is Feynlab CSC (which beat out IGL on my X5 roof), and maybe WG CSC which did well in the same test but on a separate area of the car.
However I would argue that Feynlab beading isn’t as impressive as Cosmic, Overcoat or IGL, from my very limited experience with it. But I’m not knocking it, it’s awesome bang for the buck and applies very easy.
And not sure if this is cheating, but PA Viking might be comparable to Cosmic, although I’ve never put them head to head and have used Cosmic more often.
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Update 11/11 (2.75 months):
I decided and implemented the following:
Feynlab Pure Rinseless then Kleen Strip Prep-All then Gyeon Cancoat to the following previous testing areas:
- Passenger side of hood where Nova products once occupied
- Whole roof
- Previous DPC Armor area of trunk
So my new hood test areas looks like this, testing areas exclude Cancoat:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...91d02ef5.plist
Roof is gone from the test.
Trunk looks like this, testing area excludes Cancoat:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...00109ed9.plist
So the test will live on for the time being. Beading pics taken from this morning and all remaining products doing very well.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
acuRAS82
Not including true coating lites like Cancoat... my guess is Feynlab CSC (which beat out IGL on my X5 roof), and maybe WG CSC which did well in the same test but on a separate area of the car.
However I would argue that Feynlab beading isn’t as impressive as Cosmic, Overcoat or IGL, from my very limited experience with it. But I’m not knocking it, it’s awesome bang for the buck and applies very easy.
And not sure if this is cheating, but PA Viking might be comparable to Cosmic, although I’ve never put them head to head and have used Cosmic more often.
I agree that Feynlab is easy to use, but the beading isn`t very good.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
acuRAS82
Update 11/11 (2.75 months):
I decided and implemented the following:
Feynlab Pure Rinseless then Kleen Strip Prep-All then Gyeon Cancoat to the following previous testing areas:
- Passenger side of hood where Nova products once occupied
- Whole roof
- Previous DPC Armor area of trunk
So my new hood test areas looks like this, testing areas exclude Cancoat:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...91d02ef5.plist
Roof is gone from the test.
Trunk looks like this, testing area excludes Cancoat:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...00109ed9.plist
So the test will live on for the time being. Beading pics taken from this morning and all remaining products doing very well.
Can see a vast difference from cancoat side of hood to others. How long have the Kami and PA been on?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Coatings=crack
Can see a vast difference from cancoat side of hood to others.
Other than the vast differences shown in the pictures taken after heavy rain?
The sheeting is totally different while driving. The brand new Cancoat side continually creates medium sized beads from the rain while the car is in motion. These beads then move their way up the hood until they fall off.
Cosmic and OC shed the first load of water while driving and then seemed to remain totally clean except a very slow build up of tiny, micro-beads. It’s as if the rain was just bouncing off and no longer accumulating once the hood was 90% cleared of the water that accumulated prior to driving. Only small splatters causing the very tiny beads remained on the hood from then on.
So in summary, while standing still, Cancoat has smaller tighter beads. But while in motion, Cancoat puts on a nice looking bead show, but Cosmic and OC sheet the water off once and then nothing sticks to it except minuscule beads for the rest of the drive.
So bead beauty goes to fresh Cancoat.
Sheeting goes to 2.5 month old Cosmic and OC.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Coatings=crack
How long have the Kami and PA been on?
2.5 months
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Is that on top of a coated surface?
That`s pretty impressive beading for 2.5 month old Cosmic. Initial performance unquestionable but generally for me it wouldn`t perform as well for as long, even on test panels.. now starting to wonder I`m doing wrong [emoji23]
I`m washing weekly with the advertised dilution of CarPro Reset. Panel not under a tree or subject to any obvious contamination though temperatures fluctuating between 7 and 13 degrees celcius at the mo.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
atbalfour
Is that on top of a coated surface?
That`s pretty impressive beading for 2.5 month old Cosmic. Initial performance unquestionable but generally for me it wouldn`t perform as well for as long, even on test panels.. now starting to wonder I`m doing wrong [emoji23]
I`m washing weekly with the advertised dilution of CarPro Reset. Panel not under a tree or subject to any obvious contamination though temperatures fluctuating between 7 and 13 degrees celcius at the mo.
These are not on coated surfaces. Bottom of the hood has Essence underneath though.
Im also washing with Reset 1:500 and car lives outside. Although the temperatures it’s dealt with haven’t been as hot as summertime (applies in late August), it’s gone through the typical northeast late summer and fall. Although not a ton of rain in western PA this year.
I doubt you’re doing it wrong, it’s so easy to apply. But this is 2 coats applied at the beginning. Results are so dependent on paint, weather, washing, etc.
Also note that my hose tests show these are not anywhere near initial strength, even though they are holding up well overall.
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My car sits more in rain than driving (8 hrs a day at work)Most Lsp’s will evacuate water in a drive.
In my experience my coated parts of car evacuate water faster when driving or blowing off faster than Cosmic and OC.
I have CqUk3 under Cancoat so that may be the difference.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Coatings=crack
My car sits more in rain than driving (8 hrs a day at work)Most Lsp’s will evacuate water in a drive.
In my experience my coated parts of car evacuate water faster when driving or blowing off faster than Cosmic and OC.
I have CqUk3 under Cancoat so that may be the difference.
Is Cosmic and OC on top of a coating as well when it sheets water slower than the rest of the coating? Or are they standalone?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
acuRAS82
Is Cosmic and OC on top of a coating as well when it sheets water slower than the rest of the coating? Or are they standalone?
Stand alone. Didn’t coat the hood to try out different products. Oc and Cosmic definitely perform best as a stand alone sealant of what I have tried.
Anything i put on the cQuK3/Cancoat combo performs the same as the coating,
That is what leads me to believe toppers don’t affect coating performance.
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Re: SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
Goes back to the good old debate of whether they actually adhere to the coating at all...
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Re: SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
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atbalfour
Goes back to the good old debate of whether they actually adhere to the coating at all...
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I believe they may add some base Sio2. I can tell that visually they do make a difference. If it were just protection I was after i probably wouldn’t do it.
But the other side of detailing other than protection is the way the car looks and visually topping does makecthe car look better.
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SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
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Coatings=crack
But the other side of detailing other than protection is the way the car looks and visually topping does makecthe car look better.
Yeah, I’ve seen obvious visual differences when applying toppers such as PA High Gloss or PA Carnauba Arts. I thought it was so weird when I topped High Gloss on Cancoat and the sharper difference that High Gloss does well was there, but beading was tighter than High Gloss had ever been on it’s own for me. When topping it tends to keep similar or identical beading to the coating underneath. Coatings=crack here got me on board with the idea of toppers on coatings and why the coating base keeps the beading at a high level. WillSports3 had some in depth thoughts on the same topic.
I now have a coated car in the driveway and I’ve been playing around with toppers and I still believe the topper is adhering but the beading remains as good as the underlying coating. Surface also gets slicker (which seems more concrete evidence of topper adhering than visual appearance. But even visually, adding PA Rapidwaxx or Black Wulfenite for instance is an easy way to see the look become smoother, instantly and stay that way for some time.
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Re: SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant test on Acura TSX
You can almost tell where you had taped the trunk