I’ll have more pictures and write up later, but somebody at advanced auto told this owner to use hand cleaner to remove the tar!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...539bd19adc.jpg
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I’ll have more pictures and write up later, but somebody at advanced auto told this owner to use hand cleaner to remove the tar!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...539bd19adc.jpg
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WTH did they use? LAVA soap?
Ouch!!! Sounds like $$$$
Sounds like the goof balls at my Advance Auto.
Have not been back in years!
Here’s the after of that section, not perfect but improved.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...00b107a8fc.jpg
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We’ll never know what this owner was told. There are cream style cleaners that use a gravity fed pump dispenser (consistency of yogurt). These have zero abrasives in them that work very well at cleaning hands and I have seen guys use this on tar both on cars and and clothing. Goop is an example of this cleaner. We always had a dispenser of this type soap and a Boraxo dispenser side by side, you could clean with or without grit. No, doubt that cleaner was loaded with pumas.
I thought it was going to be the cow snot stuff (goop hand cleaner). Then I saw the picture. Obviously one of the cleaners with the abrasive grit in it.
Nice save. Nothing like some pumice to even out the orange peel lol. Talk about rocks in a bottle.
Nicely done, Mike
It did remove the tar.
It did do that!
Ho-lee mo-lee.
I suppose that’s the large scale version of people using their fingernail to scrape something off the paint?
Nice recovery Mike! Guessing they’ll go a little gentler in the future...
I saw a woman using her ice scraper to clean the snow from her hood. I did a double-take on that one.
I couldn`t get my phone out fast enough to capture that one as traffic started moving.
As Gearhead noted, I think it was well-intentioned advice, they just needed to use the smooth stuff instead of the pumice. Of course the smooth stuff can be hard to find these days, depending on what cleaner you are looking at.
As Gearhead also noted, I always liked having a choice of grit/no grit, depending on what you were trying to get off your hands. Boraxo would give me a rash on the backs of my hands after a while. Fortunately today we have cheap nitrile gloves.
Wow! When I saw the title, I was thinking something along the lines of hand sanitizer and thought maybe you`d discovered some odd, legit, off label way of removing tar. Then I saw the pictures....
Great recovery, that damage was pretty ugly.
All I can think is ?!?What`s wrong with people?!? I honestly don`t see how somebody who`s presumably functional enough to drive could do that and be surprised by the result. Not even some tiny little test spot...IMO it`s an inappropriate level and extent of damage for anything, not just a black car.
Same here, and yeah maybe the counter guy was thinking of Goop/etc. Though I`ve about had it with the "use weird stuff to do automotive things" mindset; it`s not all that hard/expensive/[whatever] to just use the right stuff and get the desired results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gearhead_1
I doubt it too, more likely some pumice. Although it did kinda look like claw marks...Quote:
No, doubt that cleaner was loaded with pumas.
Heh heh heh...sorry, sorry...couldn`t resist, that image cracked me up.
Mikelambert- Nice save for a "what can ya really do at this point?" situation, but I dunno if I`d want the owner as a regular customer.
I have heard of people using hand sanitizer but never abrasive hand cleaners. WOW!
I was thinking of the petroleum-based (NON-pumice) GOOP too. WOW, that stuff made a mess!!!!
This advice is kind of like "uninformed" individuals who uses cheap paper toweling and Windex to clean their touch or navigation screens and instrument panel plastic, then wonder why it is SOOO scratched up. Same thing goes for "use a microfiber cloth" to wipe that off whatever car-care product with. Microfiber cloth type and quality can vary significantly, to say the least.
I must say again, the information and expertise shared within this forum by many of you have made me a (somewhat) better detailer and allowed me to separate detailing fact-from-fiction (myths) and avoid detailing faux pas (errors and mistakes).
I too was thinking about hand sanitizer. I have heard (never tried) that hand sanitizer will remove tar. Possibly the alcohol will dissolve the tar. What was this person thinking? They couldn’t see the scratches appearing? I really wonder about the intelligence of some people.
At least now I know how to clean my hands and my test panel hoods and doors while introducing defects before setting up product testing.
WOW! I remember face-palming myself when a neighbor clean the bugs off the front of their car with a magic eraser and some cleaner. It was a dark brown metallic car too. I thought that end result looked bad.
I was expecting to see the best way to remove tar not Darwinism at work. What`s next, the dry cleaner suggesting bleach to remove water spots? Great recovery Mike.
Thank you!
In my younger days, I did use one of these to remove some sort of paint contamination: https://www.hisglassworks.com/shop/m...3/m/3m-pad.jpg
I worked well, but gave similar if not worse results.
Wow....did he forget to mention that it would also remove the clear??? lol. It`s funny what people will tell others. I was detailing a black Acura a few years back, and my neighbor, who is in his 70`s came over and said "If you really want to make that thing shine, use black shoe polish, that`s what we used in the old days"..... uggh!!!
Eh, your neighbor is full of it. My Mother and her sister were waxing cars back before WWII and they sure weren`t using shoe polish (rather Simonize, which they hated buffing off). There are clueless people in every generation but it`s not like nobody was taking decent care of vehicles back in the old days...even way back before "vehicles" had engines (e.g., Zymol).
But really...I just don`t get it. Do people go through life marring up every fragile surface they encounter? Sheesh, I wouldn`t have survived childhood...
EDIT: Gee, I`m sorta vibing cranky today :o
For a car I bought new (less than 20 miles on the odometer), the paint was really rough (think 80 grit to the hand). The embedded contamination did come off along with some clear. Mind you that was in 1988..
Ya know what else works great at removing tar? Sandblaster
Back in the 60`s...yes, I`m that old. We would pour a cup of kerosene in the water bucket (no soap) and wash the car in the winter to kill all the road grime and leave a nice sheen on the finish. Crazy, right?
Yeah, back then my pal`s dad used to use a kerosene/?some kind of oil? mix on his `62 Chevy, a work vehicle that traveled to far-flung job sites in all kinds of weather. It served him well for decades and hundreds of thousands of miles back when most Ohio cars were scrap after a few years. While it sure wasn`t, uhm....Autopian, it had its good points and on job sites with mud up to your knees it looked a lot better than most of the (much newer) other vehicles there.
Interesting Acc, I was born and raised in Warren, OH...that`s where the kerosene went down, lol. Some of the reasoning was that the oil residue would protect the finish under the trim and leave a coating on the chrome. I also would coat the chrome with WWII surplus cosmoline, that is until I could afford a winter "beater". NE Ohio is also where I learned of IW845 in 1973. Ah yea, the good old days..............."Blue Coral" and "Classic" paste waxes were the bomb.
jimmie jam- I always suspected that prior military service somehow factored in on the "Kerosene approach".
Heh heh, sounds like when *you* say "cosmoline" you`re actually talking about the real stuff! :D
And !Oh Yeah! just get me going on those old products! Blue Coral was actually very good stuff though labor-intensive (many layers kept the local Funeral Home vehicles looking incredibl, utterly Autopian-quality and that was back in the `60s-`70s!) and I fondly remember all the stuff in the Classic line including that weird/ugly-colored, sorta granular wax, loved the artwork on their containers!
Oh, and BTW...I`ve been thinking about this thread and how I`m posting so high-and-mighty about others being idiots who should`ve known better, BUT I`ve [messed] up some painted surfaces here in the house by foolishly not doing the kind of thinking/test-spots/etc. that I`m blasting others for skipping :o Depending on how somebody presented the situation, I`d look at what I`ve done and say "oh, what an idiot, whoever did that must be stupid." Some latex interior paint didn`t withstand the sort of cleaning that I`d been assured it would...yeah, I just blindly accepted what I wanted to hear instead of thinking for myself.
Again, funny you should mention Funeral Home vehicles...my buddy worked at a local FH "Gillen-Larkins" on the night shift while we were in college. In exchange for taking care if the vehicles (hearses and the Fleetwood 75 limo`s) we could bring our cars into the heated underground garage and wash/wax them in the dead of winter. Nothing like stylin around NE Ohio in January/February in a freshly washed/waxed ride...allbeit short lived. Those Caddys were some outstanding real estate to work on...the front and rear bumpers were so far apart they had different zip codes.
I still remember applying Classic car wax to my parents 1963 Chevy...... it buffed off very easy but I think I still have a sore arm from applying that stuff!
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