Compounding dust

how do you guys deal with it??? primarily working out of my 2 car garage, sometimes ill work with the garage door down to get the room as dark as possible. by the time im done with a car... the whole garage + the car is covered in dust.

ive tried fluffing my pads off into a damp 5 gallon bucket but still, the dust is uncontrollable. pretty soon ill be putting A/C in my garage and keeping the garage door down 80% of the time. i need a solution to keep dust to a minimum.

what are some tips or things you do to control the dust?

Edit - forgot to include what products im using. Griots FCC or Jescar compound. lake country MF cut pads most of the time

Dust on the vehicle surface?

What brand are you using. M105 is famous for dusting

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Originally Posted by TheMeanGreen

Dust on the vehicle surface?

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everywhere! i normally dust the vehicle surface off before working on it. ive seen a few guys use blowers to blow off the area but to me... that just moves the dust around and creates more havoc

after im done with a vehicle. i blow out my garage floor and dust my cabinet areas.

it gets pretty nasty, i try to wear a respirator the whole time

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Originally Posted by Buster906

What brand are you using. M105 is famous for dusting

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griots FCC most of the time. just tried jescar compound, dusts is about the same? maybe just a hair less then griots FCC

If you can trust an AIO, I recommend HD SPEED unless cutting is needed for heavy correction. Perhaps research Sonax

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I`ve had that issue but not to that extent. Dust on the vehicle around the area I`m working on but not all over the garage.

Pro Polish 2 and SSR3 have minimal dusting without dampening the pad .. also take a look at your pads that they aren`t part of the problem

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Originally Posted by donbeezy

how do you guys deal with it??? primarily working out of my 2 car garage, sometimes ill work with the garage door down to get the room as dark as possible. by the time im done with a car... the whole garage + the car is covered in dust.

ive tried fluffing my pads off into a damp 5 gallon bucket but still, the dust is uncontrollable. pretty soon ill be putting A/C in my garage and keeping the garage door down 80% of the time. i need a solution to keep dust to a minimum.

what are some tips or things you do to control the dust?

Edit - forgot to include what products im using. Griots FCC or Jescar compound. lake country MF cut pads most of the time

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How do you clean your pads? I was having this problem in the garage I work out of too and thought it was because my parents don`t keep it up well enough - turns out my pads were never fully flushed out from previous paint corrections. I use FCC too and there is zero dust, ever.

soaked in snappy clean. rinsed out using garden hose on jet mode. spin dry on a DA and left to air dry for the rest of the time.

might have to go back and look at my pad cleaning process....

I have had dust residue on vehicles after compounding, but never spread all over the garage like you are saying.

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soaked in snappy clean. rinsed out using garden hose on jet mode. spin dry on a DA and left to air dry for the rest of the time.

might have to go back and look at my pad cleaning process....

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Snappy clean never gets all the polish out. If you have a pressure washer try out Swanicyouth`s process below and continue to use snappy clean. Otherwise soak in snappy clean rinse out and do a second treatment with more snappy clean or a different pad cleaner spray.

http://www.autopia.org/forums/auto-d...tml?highlight=

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soaked in snappy clean. rinsed out using garden hose on jet mode. spin dry on a DA and left to air dry for the rest of the time.

might have to go back and look at my pad cleaning process....

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Had literally the exact same technique. Switched to spraying the face with APC/Dedicated Pad Cleaner(picked up a couple bottles of PB Tornado and it really works well), agitating, then I put it face up on a grit guard in a bucket and pressure wash it. I`ve turned the water deep chalky white rinsing out just one or two pads that I thought were "clean". It`s the same technique that mnehls linked to, but he has a nice little setup where it drains. I have to empty the bucket every couple pads. Swanic knows his stuff when it comes to uncomplicating things.

If this shortens my pad life, I haven`t seen it happen yet. Never had a pad delaminate or anything, and even if it did shorten the life of the adhesive or something it`s worth it just to never have dust issues anymore.

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I`ve been using McKee`s polishing pad cleaner. I use G21+Boss MF pads and FCC and I never have any dust from that product. My process for cleaning is spray all the pads, let them sit for a minute or so, work the product into the pad. Then rinse with cold water. That being the most important step. I used to use warm or hot water. I definitely see a difference in them looking and feeling new for an extended amount of time

I don`t get heavy dusting with Menz 400. It`s a little worse with Rupes blue and Meg`s d300, but nothing I find too objectionable. I would think the Jescar and Menz would be similar, but I`m just guessing. Maybe you are just working the compound too long? Maybe try a spritz of IPA solution before wiping the compound off to cut down on the dust?

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I don`t get heavy dusting with Menz 400. It`s a little worse with Rupes blue and Meg`s d300, but nothing I find too objectionable. I would think the Jescar and Menz would be similar, but I`m just guessing. Maybe you are just working the compound too long? Maybe try a spritz of IPA solution before wiping the compound off to cut down on the dust?

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hmm maybe using too much and working too long? ill have to change my technique up.

i always thought some dusting was normal due to all these guys on instagram blowing out their pads and creating a large dust cloud. then i thought to myself, how the heck are they keeping their shop so dust free.

I try to only use compounds/polishes that generate very little dust and I`ve been blowing my pads out the side door now as well since that is what generates dust for me. Unfortunately, doing so definitely add a little to the overall time of the job but I have little to no dust at the end. I have my garage door down at all times too so that helps. Eventually I want to make a filter/fan box set up for blowing my pads into but for now out the door it is.

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hmm maybe using too much and working too long? ill have to change my technique up...

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Bingo! Well, at least IMO. I never work such products until they`re dry so there`s minimal dust to deal with.

EXCEPT FOR...

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i always thought some dusting was normal due to all these guys on instagram blowing out their pads and creating a large dust cloud. then i thought to myself, how the heck are they keeping their shop so dust free.

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Yeah, I do get some dust in the shop when I do that, pretty much unavoidable although I try to minimize it by blowing them out towards a damp floor. If I had a zillion pads I could probably eliminate the dusting entirely by changing pads instead of cleaning them.

EDIT: come to think of it, even with the blowing out I don`t get enough dust that I need to cover the other vehicles or anything like that. And I used *a lot* of product when I was KBMing with M105.

I get more dusting when I use microfiber pads than any foam pad

I really like Tornado for pad cleaning, its phenomenal

maybe a spritz of pad conditioner? did that help any?
I have dusting issues as well but doesn`t seem as bad as what you are getting.

I saw Jim of White Details use a bucket for collecting dust. He sprays the inside of the bucket with water from a spray bottle. When he goes to clean his pads with compressed air, he sticks the polisher and pad somewhat into the bucket and blows into the bucket. The wet walls of the bucket do a decent job of holding onto the dust. He`ll spray the bucket walls with water as needed.

JustJesus- That`s a good approach, the damp bucket idea.

I saw a video where they made a hole in a trash can or something and stuck a shop vac in there and taped it up and turned it on when they had the pad in there blowing the dust off...pretty clever...might need to get crafty like that myself one of these days

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JustJesus- That`s a good approach, the damp bucket idea.

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I like the idea as well, but don`t have compressed air yet.

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I saw a video where they made a hole in a trash can or something and stuck a shop vac in there and taped it up and turned it on when they had the pad in there blowing the dust off...pretty clever...might need to get crafty like that myself one of these days

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Ammo NYC had a video like that. Not sure if Kevin Brown was in that one as well, but they did something similar, using a box, I believe.

Clever ideas, indeed.

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I like the idea as well, but don`t have compressed air yet.



Ammo NYC had a video like that. Not sure if Kevin Brown was in that one as well, but they did something similar, using a box, I believe.

Clever ideas, indeed.

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it was that video where kevin brown and a lot of other famous detailers worked on that McLaren race car or whatever it was

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I like the idea as well, but don`t have compressed air yet. .

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[INSERT usual lecture about how anybody with tires oughta have an air compressor ;) ]

A reminder of how bad silica dust is...

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...d-getting-sick

Dan- Yeah, I think people are taking the issue more seriously these days; back in the days of 3M`s PI-II line those of us who mentioned it were basically blown off as Chicken Littles.

BUT..do Detailing abrasives generally contain silica these days? One of the features of the PI-III lineup was that it did *not* and none of my current products have the Warnings on them.

Not sure but I`m fairly confident anything hard enough to cut modern paint isn`t good to inhale.

I usually don`t get much dusting. On the rare occasion that I do get some, it is very minimal. When cleaning my pads, I hold the polisher inside my garbage can and if the dust slings off the pad, it`s inside the can and not all over the place. Any minimal dusting left on the vehicle is easily blown off with my air compressor before the final wipe down.

I`ve been using The Wax Shop 1000, 2000, 3000 lately and it has a long work time, produces excellent results and very little dusting.

I usually get minimal dusting too but the times I wear a mask it looks dirty to me. It`s certainly not as white as it started.

I`ll have a look tomorrow at all my polish bottles, but do any of them recommend wearing a mask during use? If not, wouldn`t that open them up to lawsuits if people were injured inhaling the dust they created?

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I`ll have a look tomorrow at all my polish bottles, but do any of them recommend wearing a mask during use? If not, wouldn`t that open them up to lawsuits if people were injured inhaling the dust they created?

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The products I use don`t mention wearing masks.... Its all `bout the combination of pads/products your using as well as technique....I`m assuming your swapping out your pads, specially m/f ones.....

In my experience:

1. Dirty pads (dried product still lodged in the fibers/foam cells).
2. Too much/not enough compound in action.
3. Too long of cycle time (too many passes).

I prefer cutting with foam pads, but regardless of the type, I either blow or brush them out after each set of passes.

These products can really grind off some paint, which had to go somewhere. Manufacturers understand this, and prefer the product dust away, rather than clog up the pad. It almost seems like a design feature, although the trend is to make them behave more like a polish - which is awesome!