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Which do you like and which do you think is safer for the paint? I think rinseless might be a little safer if the applicator is very wet. They seem similar:
for rinseless, a wet towel on a dry surface
for waterless, a dry towel on a wet surface
I wet the panel on a rinseless and use a lot of product with waterless, most of us here probably do the same.
rinseless..only time I use waterless is for jambs or touchup spots
Ive used the new meguiars wash plus+ that works well...doesnt strip wax though as ive did several cross hatch passes vigerously ...only temporarly masked the LSP beading effects
I feel more safe using that then waterless washing a car
I generally just do this...
hose down the vehicle (optional)
then spray panel with waterless wash
then rinseless wash
then use waterless wash as drying aid
Depends on how dirty, and what kind of dirt.........
+1. Same exact process here.
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Originally Posted by 512detail
I feel about the same. I`m sure a waterless is OK if you use a lot of product and a lot of towels, but a rinseless only requires an MF mitt, one plush towel as a mop to absorb large accumulations of product and one drying towel. I have three different waterless products on the shelf, but use them for bird bombs, quick wipe on an already clean car before polishing or on my garage queen Camino, when many folks would be using a QD.Quote:
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Bill
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Originally Posted by Billy Jack
If you use "a lot" of product with waterless washes, you will end up with a ton of streaks.
Read the label on spray and wipe.
True with Spray & Wipe, but UWW+ works well when applied heavily. I use a LOT of UWW+ and a LOT of towels when doing a waterless wash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronkh
To OP`s question, I "like" waterless better, because that means my car wasn`t very dirty to begin with. ;)
A good topic here , funny , I was just about to generate a new thread about this ,I just recently purchased WG Uber rinseless and have not tried it yet , I have four personal cars and my wash areas face either due southeast or southwest which makes it hard to avoid sun exposure , my idea for light dirt and routine washes is to use my foam gun out doors early or at night and duck into one of my bays and to continue a wipe with lots of towells....what do you guys think or suggest ?
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I`ve been using Waterless washes for almost 30 years and never had issues of a car being too dirty.
Yes, if very dirty more towels and product will be used, but those occasions are few and far between.
When I was a full time detailer, it saved me hundreds of hours of drying and gumming up of pads from dripping mirrors and jambs.
When i lived in an apartment it saved me from having dirty vehicles.
During drought times, my cars were always clean.
I`m sure there are plenty of people who are scared of the process, but since most of our sales are directed to Street Rods and Collectible cars there is no fear once used. :)
Poorboy, you should try Spray & Wipe by Poorboys World if you haven`t already.
I dunno how anybody washes marring-free with (only) a rinseless, let alone a waterless!
Accumulator - thank you.
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Ron that normal vette looks like an anorexic supermodel compared to your junk in the trunk Z, lol
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Originally Posted by 512detail
I will carry your torch of a shiny black muscle car
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Originally Posted by 512detail
Good product and good towels waterless not a problem.
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Ron,
Something tells me you miss your black paint on your former C7.
It did look perfect, except the right fender:)
yeah i do....... :ph34r:Quote:
Originally Posted by LEDetailng
I know this is your stance on the subject, and I respect it, but if I can waterless/rinseless wash a car and get zero marring, then it can be done. There`s simply no doubt or quandary about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Accumulator
I still haven`t figured out how to do waterless but that may be due to the fact I`m doing other folks dd that need a lot of tlc to get clean
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I love rinseless washes, but up here in MN we have a lot of crap on the roads. My lower panels get caked with dirt, worms, leaves, etc. which trap the sand and dirt. When I can do a rinseless wash I will, but lately my schedule is so full that when I get a chance to wash my car, the lower panels are terrible. Pair that with the hard water here (24 grains per gallon\411 ppm) I can only wash at night or in the morning. If I washed more frequently then I could probably get away with rinseless all the time, but I still struggle with the lower panels especially if it rains. If I am going to break out the hose to rinse it off I just end up washing it.
I will take any suggestions on how others deal with this and I would love to see some before pictures to see if I am being to ocd. I recently purchased a gallon of Uber (My smaller bottle is almost out) and Mckees N-914. I also have Ultima Concetrate, a gallon of the old DP rinseless, a gallon of the DP waterless and other waterless washes.
The closest I come to doing a `water-less wash` is giving my car a GOOD rinsing with a high pressure garden hose, making sure I rinse off as much dirt as possible. Then, leaving as much water on the car as I can (no free flow rinsing) I use Meguiar`s D115 at an 8:1 ratio, spray the panel heavily, then wipe/dry the panel. But that`s ONLY if the car is lightly dusty/dirty and has not been rained on.
Great info guys. I just received my ultima water-less wash. Never tried water-less wash so should be entertaining lol.
Let us know how it works out for you
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Heh heh, not a problem for many...but not Accumulator-proof either :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPersman
I only waterless if the car is fully wrapped and I`m driving to a place with no water.. i.e., hotel.
My truck is a year and a half old now and has only seen waterless washes. I always hose it off first but I dont pretreat it. On occasion it gets very dirty and I do have some marring that can be seen in certain light now. I have only used the BRS on my truck but have used I think maybe 5 different products to wash it.
IMO the BRS doesnt lift the dirt off a very dirty panel as well as I would like, or my technique needs work pulling it off, in turn my drying towel will have evidence of dirt on it. And voila, marring.
Its very light, and possibly even in the CQUK itself. I plan on using the new essence to just cover it, afterall its a work truck.