3D needs a sealant friendly car wash and spray sealant for poxy/nitro.

Zaino has a car wash soap and quality spray sealant.



Wolf`s has a car wash soap and spray sealant that is also geared towards maintaining the shine and protection of their sealant.



I dont see anything on the 3D site that is geared towards that use. They can be added to the HD lineup. That way when a client is looking for something to maintain his poxy protected paint, I can send him a link to a product that is specifically geared for that use.



I just chatted with Thomas about this, but I wanted to make sure it gets full exposure.



Also would like to hear what other detailers think who are looking at using poxy.



Thanks!

I don`t know if it`s all that important for everything being used to be the same name brand. If 3D made something then great, if not, then there`s plenty of other products out there that can do the job very well. With that being said, 3D, make a spray sealant, and a spray everything else you can since it`s that much easier to use.

Personally I use 3D pink soap which will not degrade the sealant, and I use HD Free as a “spray sealant� topper.

Whilst not exactly the type of products you’re talking about, both work perfectly to prolong the life and enhance Poxy



Cheers

Daniel

One of the (many) reasons why I like Griot`s Car Wash is the way it`s sooo gentle on LSPs. All LSPs, frome beauty-waxes to sealants.



I wish 3D/HD would come up with a shampoo that has the lubricity, encapsulation, cleaning power, and LSP-friendlieness of the Griot`s, and offer it in 5 gallon buckets. While a few shampoos like DuraGloss and Optimum are generally considered *close* to Griot`s, I`ve heard very few people here say that anything is *better* and most of the people who like the others say that they`re "nearly as good" or something like that.



So IMO here`s an opportunity to knock one out of the park and make a huge contribution to what I consider the single most important aspect of detailing- THE WASH.

I know it is "ME" but the pink soap is an excellent top of the line car soap. In fact it is so gentle that it can be used as a hand soap.



Have you actually tried it Acc?

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One of the (many) reasons why I like Griot`s Car Wash is the way it`s sooo gentle on LSPs. All LSPs, frome beauty-waxes to sealants.



I wish 3D/HD would come up with a shampoo that has the lubricity, encapsulation, cleaning power, and LSP-friendlieness of the Griot`s, and offer it in 5 gallon buckets. While a few shampoos like DuraGloss and Optimum are generally considered *close* to Griot`s, I`ve heard very few people here say that anything is *better* and most of the people who like the others say that they`re "nearly as good" or something like that.



So IMO here`s an opportunity to knock one out of the park and make a huge contribution to what I consider the single most important aspect of detailing- THE WASH.

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I know it is "ME" but the pink soap is an excellent top of the line car soap. In fact it is so gentle that it can be used as a hand soap...

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Heh heh, and I`ve shampooed my dogs with Griot`s more than once. Aren`t *all* good shampoos gentle enough that you could use `em for stuff like that?



Have you actually tried it Acc?[/QUOTE]



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No, I have to admit I have not. Nor have I tried either the DuraGloss or Optimum. I`m in a "not broken, so don`t try to fix" situation; I`ll need some very compelling evidence/testimony before I`ll risk trying anything else, and somebody whose opinion I trust 100% (but who`d better remain nameless) has said the Pink Shampoo isn`t something they`d expect me to be satisfied with.



Note that I will *NOT* under any circumstances, try some unknown if I have any concerns about it resulting in any marring as I currently have all my vehicles sorted to my satisfaction. Heh heh, I don`t plan to polish anything for many, many years :grinno:



Yeah, I know...that`s pretty [crappy] of me, huh? "Prove the unprovable for me before I`ll try it"...but if somebody I know/trust says something like "I`ve used Griot`s for hundreds of washes and this stuff is at least as good, guaranteed, I`d bet my life on it" then, well, OK.



Note that I`ve had people actually suggest that Meg`s Gold Class is an OK shampoo :eek: and that stuff immediately got relegated to undercarriage duty (after I tried it on a loaner car). Other "OK" shampoos like M62, Pinnacle, BF, and stuff from TOL weren`t even close to Griot`s either. It`s gotten to where when people say *anything* is as good as Griot`s my first thoughts are "how many washes have you actually *done* with the Griot`s" as I really do think it`s one unique product that might be in a class of its own.



So "apologies!" if I`ve set this up as a no-win, but a) I`d like to get shampoo in larger quantities at a commensurate savings if I can do it without compromising quality, and b) all things being equal (that`s the kicker, huh?!?) I`d like to spend the money with 3D/HD...hey, I could buy it from Barry!

No need to apologize - I just didn`t know if you actually had a sample or something from this trusted person.



See I never used Griot`s. I`ll try to get some sample to see what the big deal is about it.



In any case, Pink Soap does work for me.



PS: as far as all shampoos being skin friendly? I would often get dryish hands with some of the above mentioned shampoos

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Heh heh, and I`ve shampooed my dogs with Griot`s more than once. Aren`t *all* good shampoos gentle enough that you could use `em for stuff like that?



Have you actually tried it Acc?

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[another of my looong replies follows:]



No, I have to admit I have not. Nor have I tried either the DuraGloss or Optimum. I`m in a "not broken, so don`t try to fix" situation; I`ll need some very compelling evidence/testimony before I`ll risk trying anything else, and somebody whose opinion I trust 100% (but who`d better remain nameless) has said the Pink Shampoo isn`t something they`d expect me to be satisfied with.



Note that I will *NOT* under any circumstances, try some unknown if I have any concerns about it resulting in any marring as I currently have all my vehicles sorted to my satisfaction. Heh heh, I don`t plan to polish anything for many, many years :grinno:



Yeah, I know...that`s pretty [crappy] of me, huh? "Prove the unprovable for me before I`ll try it"...but if somebody I know/trust says something like "I`ve used Griot`s for hundreds of washes and this stuff is at least as good, guaranteed, I`d bet my life on it" then, well, OK.



Note that I`ve had people actually suggest that Meg`s Gold Class is an OK shampoo :eek: and that stuff immediately got relegated to undercarriage duty (after I tried it on a loaner car). Other "OK" shampoos like M62, Pinnacle, BF, and stuff from TOL weren`t even close to Griot`s either. It`s gotten to where when people say *anything* is as good as Griot`s my first thoughts are "how many washes have you actually *done* with the Griot`s" as I really do think it`s one unique product that might be in a class of its own.



So "apologies!" if I`ve set this up as a no-win, but a) I`d like to get shampoo in larger quantities at a commensurate savings if I can do it without compromising quality, and b) all things being equal (that`s the kicker, huh?!?) I`d like to spend the money with 3D/HD...hey, I could buy it from Barry![/QUOTE]

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No need to apologize...

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Thanks for understanding, I can be a bit, uhm....unreasonable when it comes to this particular topic :o

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I dont see anything on the 3D site that is geared towards that use. They can be added to the HD lineup. That way when a client is looking for something to maintain his poxy protected paint, I can send him a link to a product that is specifically geared for that use.

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Ask and ye shall receive:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdJi0ZM-Gbo

cant find it on your store site though its listed as being used after teh caranuba wax.

I believe that this product will not be released until sometime after SEMA.





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Accumulator, why don`t you like Megs GC shampoo?

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cant find it on your store site though its listed as being used after teh caranuba wax.

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Soon to be released right around the time of SEMA along with all the other new HD products.`

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Accumulator, why don`t you like Megs GC shampoo?

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Mainly because it seemed like it`s lubricity was *way* below that of the Griot`s, and it didn`t seem as LSP-friendly when I mixed it strong enough to clean the way the GG does.` All-in-all I was utterly underwhelmed by it and quickly relegated it to wheelwell duty.` I know it`s very popular, but I consider it, uhm....well, let`s just say that if I want to use a Meguiar`s shampoo I reach for their M62,


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But note all those qualifiers in my response (.. "seemed loke"),` Maybe my water factors in.` Or the perhaps unique way that I wash (all that foamgun stuff).` Eh, I dunno...but my take on it was so negative that generally I don`t mind knocking it.` Subjective?` Yeah, but I`m the subject ;)


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Gotta say that I`m leaning towards trying the Pink.` Might pick up a five gallon bucket of it (for the cost of ~1.5 gallons of GG) and see how I like it.` With the way I wash I wouldn`t mind a *little* "sub-GG performance", but I won`t step down to GC, that`s just a bit too far below my comfort zone.