Megs Help

I hate to be negative, but every time I use Megs products it seems the results are worse than when I started. I`ve been using #7 polish followed by #26 wax. I spend the following week trying to remove what you guys call "blush". This combination seems to constantly bleed out and become somewhat hazy and greasy. Also, I haven`t seen a great deal of swirl removal capabilities. I`m using a PC and so far have not been impressed with this combination. Thinking of switching to some Poorboys products, possibly SSR2 & EX. The finish I`m working on is a well maintained black 03 Infinity G35.

Any thoughts or suggestions as I seem to have spent a considerable amount of time with results that are less than desirable.

Well #7 is not the greatest of glazes, but its okay. And the combo you have should be perfectly fine. My thoughts are that you are not getting the #7 bonded, and are smearing when you remove it. Thus when you apply the #26, its mixing and bonding with #7 at the SAME time (hence the bad looks).

As for swirl removal, these products are not designed to remove swirls WHAT so ever. The SSR2 you mentioned, is designed to do this. Meguairs #9 will also do this.

blushing is a complex problem that is very exasperating. just when you think you have figured it out BOOOOM it comes back with a vengence let us know what happens

I could not disagree more! To me #7 is one of the best products period! But it is a pain to work with if you do not know how to use it properly.

Here is a link to a How To by Mike Phillips on the use of #7.

http://www.autopia.org/forums/showth...threadid=23740

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Thanks

Tim

Informative link there! I never knew #7 took so much work!

Try Speed glaze or DACP those will be alot better to work with.

Speed Glaze does contain a high amount of Meguair`s pure polish like #3, #7 and #81. However, DACP does not.

When used properly, #7 Show Car Glaze is hard to beat! IMHO!

Tim

I might try #7 again sometime. Right now I am going to do a full poorboy`s setup the first chance I get.

after applying #7, how long should you wait before you put #26 on?

Now that I have learned some, here goes...

#7 does not "dry" it ahs to be removed. Its basically oil. So once you do the car, go back to the first area and LIGHTLY remove it, do this to each panel, best results with 3 passes of the entire car. Use light ammount each time, very light first time, mild second, and makes sure its all gone on the third. Also, best results acheived with a terry cloth on the first 2 passes, and a MF on the last (since your try to get all of it).

Thats atleast how I understand it now, 2hotford will correct me if im wrong :D

You can apply #26 immediately after wiping off the #7. It will look fantastic!


And Tass (Dan)....:D

Tim

No wonder I switched to something I feel is better and has a similar look :) Sorry, but if I mess up I dont want the product to take it out on my arms. lol Dont get me wrong, #7 is a great product, but the way that article sounded its too time consuming for most mobile detailers. I dont think we would really have time to make 3 passes. Of course I have never had to make 3 passes. I think I will stay with Poorboys :)

Cujo

I can always expect my Meguiars lineup to be there, and 2hotford to whip me inline if I screw something up.

But right now, Poorboys is looking GREAT for an easier job. And us fat guys are all about the laziness.

While I`ve never had a difficult problem with #7 (been using it close to 40 years), I do find that the Meguiar`s Pro Hand Polish is a much easier product to work with on clear-coat finishes, and IMHO, give even more gloss.

I have found that microfiber is an absolute must for preventing streaking and uneveness. No matter what I do with cotton towels I have problems. I don`t know what you`re using, but if you`re not using MF you should consider switching. Also, you might consider polishing prior to using #7. I use Imperial Hand Glaze and I don`t think it would work as well over a non-polished surface. PB`s products are extremely forgiving of weather conditions and technique - I have never seen enthusiast products work more easily and produce such good results. Try the Polish with Carnuba - amazing product.

I re-worked my black Santa Fe this weekend and I used Hand Polish for the first time. OH BOY! What a SHINE! The glaze really brought out the finish after working with SSR2 and VM. With the swirl removers the finish was pretty much free of major defects but it lacked, how you say? "POP"

The kicker is that according to Mike Phillips you can apply a polymer over #81 and capture the shine.

Tomorrow morning I`ll be applying either EX or UPP. I had EX on the Santa Fe prior to the work-up and I was quite pleased with the look. Now that it is even more shiny I`m tempted to try again UPP. The Platinum looks great on my wife`s silver spruce Avalon.

Personally never had a problem with #7 and I don`t use it the way Mike Philips described. I apply it VERY VERY THIN to a small area, say a third of a panel and buff off almost immediately (using MF). Never had any streaking, haze or problems of any sort.

Having said that, you can definetely find easier to use products and PB stuff will fit the bill.

I know UPP will bond just fine over 3M PI-III Machine Glaze, don`t know about over Meg`s Hand Polish though. PI-III Machine Glaze doesn`t seem to leave any residue behind. Would make sense using UPP over Speed Glaze as it contains what Meg`s calls a "paintable polymer".

Natty

It Works! This morning I put a coat of UPP on my very shiny black Santa Fe. UPP went on fine - it`s been awhile and I put too much on - after buffing alot.

As Phillips said, you CAN apply a polymer over #81. I will testify to that. UPP "captured" the shine of #81 and added its own gloss to the finish.

For me the deal is to prepare the surface by any means comfortable to you - in my case SSR2 and VM - then apply #81 Hand Polish to bring out the real potential of the surface.

UPP looks so very nice on my wife`s Avalon. I decided to go back to UPP on the Santa Fe. I was not disapointed!

#81 and UPP ROCKS!

What is VM and is #81 Hand Polish actually a glaze-type product or a polish? Or is a polish a glaze? I don`t think so, but I gotta ask the dumb question.

VM is ClearKote`s Vanilla Moose - a mild abrasive and chemical cleaner that leaves some protection on the surface. #81 Hand Polish is actually a glaze. It offers zero protection, but, boy does it shine. It`s Meg`s Professional Line and is "paintable." Thus you can apply a polymer over it.

In this case I used Platinum Ultimate Paint Protection and I am EXTREMELY happy with the results. The Santa Fe has NEVER looked better. :)

Hi Ray aka Gadfly,

I am glad that you like the #81 Hand Polish. It is an awesome product!

Tim

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Hi Ray aka Gadfly,

I am glad that you like the #81 Hand Polish. It is an awesome product!

Tim

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I would agree! :cool:

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WE NEED PICS!

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WE NEED PICS!

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I agree :D

Natty

is it ok to apply megs gold class over #7 ?

Sure, you could, but its not going to make too much of a difference. Megs GC is a very deep and glossy wax, just not durable.

try S100 you will love it. We want pics :D