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    noticed it`s selling it for $379.99 (could be more as it could be a pre-sale price), ouch...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigAl3 View Post
    noticed it`s selling it for $379.99 (could be more as it could be a pre-sale price), ouch...
    I saw that as well. Very heavy on the pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw5541 View Post
    I saw that as well. Very heavy on the pocket.
    next thing you know, all the Flex`s will increase in price... Stop

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    Maybe it`s just me, but my level of excitement about another rotary is close to nil.

    Right now, the direction is going toward DA correction. Surbuf and microfiber pads, M105, and more powerful DA`s are all examples of how DA`s are becoming more capable.

    The cost of the new PE14-12 is another let down. $300 is about the most I can see many users wanting to spend on a mini rotary. With the Flex`s high price, why not step up to the world class Fein polishers? Besides, if I really need to get into a tight spot, I`ll just add a spindle extension and a 3" backing plate.

    As touted in the video, the Flex apparently has some power and can use a 7" pad. But, what about those who enjoy using double sided wool pads?

    Why won`t tool manufacturers quit wasting time and design an ergonomic and high power DA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PorscheGuy997 View Post
    Maybe it`s just me, but my level of excitement about another rotary is close to nil.

    Right now, the direction is going toward DA correction. Surbuf and microfiber pads, M105, and more powerful DA`s are all examples of how DA`s are becoming more capable.

    The cost of the new PE14-12 is another let down. $300 is about the most I can see many users wanting to spend on a mini rotary. With the Flex`s high price, why not step up to the world class Fein polishers? Besides, if I really need to get into a tight spot, I`ll just add a spindle extension and a 3" backing plate.

    As touted in the video, the Flex apparently has some power and can use a 7" pad. But, what about those who enjoy using double sided wool pads?

    Why won`t tool manufacturers quit wasting time and design an ergonomic and high power DA?
    I`m with you Chris! I mean heck, $379 to spin water out of my pads.
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    Glad this post had generated such good conversation. Not that I can afford $400 for a rotary, but I will consider less costly alternatives for future purchases.

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    Maybe after Flex`s Dealers see that no one is buying this new tool,
    they will lower the price???

    Perhaps because a Random Orbital has to do alot more movement than a Rotary, that is the reason why no one will take the time to figure out how to keep all those parts working reliably for a long time and develop a really super-duper one ?

    I dont ever see the Rotary going away though; every Automaker, body shop in the world and everyone else who details Airplanes, Boats, polishes stone, etc., uses some form of a Rotary type machine because its powerful, fast, and does the job.

    My good friend who is a professional boat detailer goes through several rotaries a season, grinding away on gelcoat, but he is never going to try to use a random orbital because it just wont do it and if it could, would take way too long.

    I use both rotary and Flex3401VRG to detail most of my Clients vehicles, and will always use the rotary first, when I have lots of junk in the paint that I want to remove quickly because it just does this so much faster.
    Sometimes, I will finish the detail with the rotary and not even fire up the Flex.

    Now I know alot of the real Pro`s here use the Random Orbital on everything and do outstanding work with it, and for their sake as well as everyone else who uses one, it would be great if someone thought out of the box and did the R&D to see how far they could take this technology..

    Maybe if enough of the Random Orbital Users keep bugging the Manufacturers about it, someone might have a light bulb turn on or something..

    This new Rotary will also take 8" pads according to that Mike guy on the "other" site, so maybe its more versatile than originally thought..

    It is still very expensive; I could buy 2 Makita 9227C`s and still have money left over to pay for shipping for that price..

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    I`m with the majority here. While I`ve always been intrigued by the lighter and smaller units on the market I`ve never been able to justify the price of them.

    I`ve got two Dewalt`s that I managed to find cheap on Craigslist. I`ve been using them for the last 4-5 years and the only costs have been a trigger on one of them ($45) and a power cord on the other ($65). They are heavy and bulky but I`ve learned to work with them and have no issues with them getting the job done.

    While a bigger and better orbital would also be nice, I`ve managed to get to a point (like the rest of you I`m sure) where I`ve got a pretty solid routein involving both the rotary and the orbital that gets the job done every time.

    Andy

 

 
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