New to the PC

**IbisA4** · 01-04-2011, 01:58 PM

Hello All

I have been detailing cars by hand for the first part of my life, and my wife got me this kit for Christmas -

Menzerna kit, menzerna polishing kit, menzerna intensive polish kit

I used it on my 2010 Black VW CC R-Line and was more than impressed with the results. I love the PC and wish I would have gotten it sooner.

My question is this. When I was using the Intensive Polish with the white pad - it started out OK. Went on smooth and came off easy. However, it started to dust like crazy and almost gum on as I was putting it on. It became hard to remove also.

I know that I am doing something wrong, any suggestions?

**MDerleth** · 01-04-2011, 02:43 PM

You might be using too much product on the pad if it`s gumming up.

Maybe a few more details like how much you`re using, how the pad was primed, etc., would allow others with more experience to chime in.

**IbisA4** · 01-04-2011, 03:06 PM

Not sure what you mean about primed - I just put product on and went for it.

I also drew an "X" on the pad. I watched the video that came with the machine and that is one of the suggestions they used.

**mrclean81** · 01-04-2011, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by IbisA4

Not sure what you mean about primed - I just put product on and went for it.

I also drew an "X" on the pad. I watched the video that came with the machine and that is one of the suggestions they used.

The most effective method to prime is known as the Kevin Brown method. Its pretty simple. Start off by applying a generous amount of polish to the pad, then work it in aggressively with your fingers until the entire pad is covered. After this is done, it only takes a couple drops per section. There are videos on YouTube that demonstrates this technique.

**IbisA4** · 01-05-2011, 11:56 PM

WOW. What a difference that made. Thanks for the advice, it helped a lot.

**mrclean81** · 01-06-2011, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by IbisA4

WOW. What a difference that made. Thanks for the advice, it helped a lot.

You welcome. Glad it worked for you.

**Bunky** · 01-06-2011, 11:50 AM

Unless you use the KBM method, I would apply less polish than a generous X.

Once the pad is primed I only need 3 or 4 dabs of polish for each section. If you do too much, it just takes longer to work it clear. I would suggest about 2x your ongoing use (so for me about 8 dabs). If you cannot spread the polish over the work area evenly, this will tell you to add a bit more before starting before starting.

You also need to clean your pad regularly and then switch to a new pad to get maximum results. You may end up using 3 or 4 pads for a single polish correction.

**IbisA4** · 01-06-2011, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bunky

Unless you use the KBM method, I would apply less polish than a generous X.

Once the pad is primed I only need 3 or 4 dabs of polish for each section. If you do too much, it just takes longer to work it clear. I would suggest about 2x your ongoing use (so for me about 8 dabs). If you cannot spread the polish over the work area evenly, this will tell you to add a bit more before starting before starting.

You also need to clean your pad regularly and then switch to a new pad to get maximum results. You may end up using 3 or 4 pads for a single polish correction.

OK. I am going to pick up a few new pads. What is a good way to clean them while you are working.

**IbisA4** · 01-27-2011, 12:48 PM

Just wondering if anyone had any good ideas on how to clean the pads while you are working. I am picking up some more pads, but I was told that you can clean them during the detail.

**Bunky** · 01-27-2011, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by IbisA4

Just wondering if anyone had any good ideas on how to clean the pads while you are working. I am picking up some more pads, but I was told that you can clean them during the detail.

When they clean pads while polishing, I think they mean you wipe off dried polish and residue from the pads after several sections since they work better clean. At some point, you switch to a clean pad to continue to get best results.

**IbisA4** · 02-01-2011, 09:57 AM

OK. I just ordered some new pads - so I will have two orange, three white and three gray. My car is newer and does not have any major swirling or defects. I am not using very abrasive polish either. Is this enough to complete the car?

**Merlin** · 02-03-2011, 07:46 AM

My car is newer and does not have any major swirling or defects. I am not using very abrasive polish either. Is this enough to complete the car?

The short answer...yes it should be.

Prep is the key: Wash, clay bar, wash, polish then seal.

Depending on the condition of the paint and the fact you already have
a couple of Menz products I`d like to throw this on the table...

As stated by mrclean81 the KB method will get great results from your PC.

NOTE: Always use the least aggressive polishing method first.

1) Intensive Polish and Super Intensive Polish are a little aggressive.
I use them with an orange pad (or Surbuf depending on paint condition)
These products a great for removing fine scratches and swirls marks.

2) Final Polish I would use with a white pads to brighten up after step 1

3) I like and would recommend then using Menz PO85RD with a grey pad.
This creates an even brighter shine and good depth after using Final Polish.

4) In keeping with the Menz product line I would suggest using
Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant. it`s a super slick synthetic.