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**imported_Tom** · 04-21-2009, 06:30 PM

I just tried out my new 5 1/4" pads (pc) and they `seem` to be the perfect match. Now this is all subjective but: the machine seems to have more power under pressure and the throw -seems- to be different. Could the smaller `mass` of these pads have some real effect??

**weekendwarrior** · 04-21-2009, 06:41 PM

On a DA machine, with smaller pads, you have less surface area, therefor less resistance and more power. You have to be careful with *certain* 4" pad/polish combos on the PC, with certain paints, as I know some people that have burned paint. This is why some people claim that when using the PC for correction, 4" pads are the only way to go.

I like the 5.25" pads, because the pressure is more evenly distributed since the backing plate covers the majority of the back of it.

**Todd@RUPES** · 04-21-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Tom

I just tried out my new 5 1/4" pads (pc) and they `seem` to be the perfect match. Now this is all subjective but: the machine seems to have more power under pressure and the throw -seems- to be different. Could the smaller `mass` of these pads have some real effect??

A smaller pad on the PC is going to act more aggressive as it decreases the surface area of the pad (less friction or `grip` on the paint) allowing the machine to operate at a higher speed. With a PC/G110 power is really the limiting factor, and by focusing that power over a smaller, more concentrated area, you effectively increase the working action.

You will notice the pad will spin faster and the machine may oscillate closer to it`s no-load rating. The throw is going to be the same distance regardless as it is a mechanical function of the machine.

I`m glad you are enjoying the smaller pad`s with the PC

**imported_Luster** · 04-21-2009, 07:22 PM

I started using a PC about 3 years ago with 6.5" pads. When I switched to 5.5" pads, I never went back. Better cut, faster action. And, as an added bonus..... CHEAPER!!!

I`m stocked up on 5.5`s. Love `em!:thumbup:

**imported_Termigator** · 04-21-2009, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Luster

I started using a PC about 3 years ago with 6.5" pads. When I switched to 5.5" pads, I never went back. Better cut, faster action. And, as an added bonus..... CHEAPER!!!

I`m stocked up on 5.5`s. Love `em!:thumbup:

So, what you`re saying is get 5.5`s if you want more cut with the PC or...get the Flex since you have loads of brand new 6.5 & 7.5 pads and don`t want them to go to waste?

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**LUSTR Detail** · 04-21-2009, 11:53 PM

What smaller pads are you guys using? CCS or flat?

**imported_Tom** · 04-22-2009, 10:33 AM

ivopivo, I ordered the ccs and they are wonderful; as Luster I will not go back to the larger/thicker pads and I don`t think anyone else who tries the fivers will every go back either, and the price advantage is very significant.

Thanks all, I didn`t -think- it was all in my mind.

**mrtonyn** · 04-22-2009, 10:42 AM

The PC kit I purchased from CMA came with 6.5" flex backplate and pads.
However, when I looked at the balancing weight it says to use with 5" pads only.
Do I have to purchase the correct weight, which in this case would be for 6" pads? I am not sure if the 5" weight is close enough so that is why CMA shipped it installed already on the PC.
At times I do get lots of vibration, but I don`t know if it is normal or because of the wrong weight.

**LUSTR Detail** · 04-22-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by mrtonyn

The PC kit I purchased from CMA came with 6.5" flex backplate and pads.
However, when I looked at the balancing weight it says to use with 5" pads only.
Do I have to purchase the correct weight, which in this case would be for 6" pads? I am not sure if the 5" weight is close enough so that is why CMA shipped it installed already on the PC.
At times I do get lots of vibration, but I don`t know if it is normal or because of the wrong weight.

Don`t worry about that, it`s been stated many times online, by myself and others, that you don`t notice a difference in vibration using different counter weights on the PC

**Dave1** · 04-22-2009, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by ivopivo

What smaller pads are you guys using? CCS or flat?

I prefer the flat pads myself.......

**LUSTR Detail** · 04-22-2009, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Dave1

I prefer the flat pads myself.......

What`s the best place to buy flat 5-5.5" pads? I still have a few old ones but haven`t really look for newer flat pads to buy in the smaller size

**imported_Tom** · 04-22-2009, 05:26 PM

Ivan the best place to buy the pads, or anything else for that matter, is right here at proper auto- select the SHOP button up top then the car buffers/polishers tab, then select the dual action link, you`ll see the pad I got under the 5 1/4 CCS section.

I have stopped checking pricing at other sites for similar items-CMA is ALWAYS either the exact same price as the cheapest site, or on more than a few occassions about 5% LESS than the `best` price elsewhere.

Buy just one package of two and see for yourself, what have you got to lose?:smile:

**LUSTR Detail** · 04-22-2009, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Tom

Ivan the best place to buy the pads, or anything else for that matter, is right here at proper auto- select the SHOP button up top then the car buffers/polishers tab, then select the dual action link, you`ll see the pad I got under the 5 1/4 CCS section.

I have stopped checking pricing at other sites for similar items-CMA is ALWAYS either the exact same price as the cheapest site, or on more than a few occassions about 5% LESS than the `best` price elsewhere.

Buy just one package of two and see for yourself, what have you got to lose?:smile:

I don`t see flat pads... can you post a link?