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    Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Polishing paint involves using abrasive materials to create a controlled level of friction. This friction smooths away imperfections, and when done correctly, leaves the paint looking factory fresh, void of any gloss-hindering defects such as swirl marks and micro scratches.

    A by product of friction is heat. This is easy to mimic. Press your palms together and rub vigorously, back-and-forth, until you feel your hands begin to warm. Rub harder and faster and it is possible to heat your hands to the point that they hurt.

    While heating paint does offer some benefits very minor benefits, over all it is an unwanted by product which offers more drawbacks. When paint is overheated it can become permanently damaged.

    What Advantages Does Heat Offer

    The only advantage that heat offers, when considered for polishing, is it MAY soften the paint/clear coat slightly, resulting in a faster correction. That`s it.

    What Disadvantages Does Heat Create?

    As mentioned above, heat will act to slightly soften the paint/clear coat. In extreme cases heat can cause the paint become unstable, leading to wrinkling, shrinking, texture changing, burning or many other permanent and unwanted effects. In addition, excessive heat is responsible for the following

    • Paint Swelling - A condition in which heat and/or solvents cause the paint to swell, hiding imperfections and making it impossible to remove them.
    • Paint Softening- On a cold day asphalt is as hard as a rock. On a hot day, black top can become so hot that your shoes leave imprints. The abrasives in a polish can leave imprints in hot paint, which become visible as the paint cures. This results in dye back - a condition in which hazing or holograms reappear hours or days after polishing.
    • Poor Polish Performance- Polishes feature an oil or water-based lubricant which allows them to stay wet and remove paint defects without scouring the paint`s finish. As the heat increase, the lubricants ability to protect the finish decreases leading to an increase in scouring. Too much heat will dry up the lubricants completely, resulting in even greater temperature spike.
    • Decreased Pad Life- Excessive heat will greatly effect the stability of the foam and weaken the adhesive that holds the Velcro-like material to the pad.



    How Hot Is Too Hot?

    After consulting with several paint experts and chemists, as well as the car/paint care experts, the general consciousness is that temperatures above 180-200 degrees should be avoided. Temperatures above 230 degrees can, and likely will, lead to long-term damage. Sadly we have seen some detailers, even those who claim to be experts, brag about making paint smoke as they detail it. Since paint will smoke around 240 degrees, these "experts" have been bragging about damaging paint finishes.

    Keep in mind that black or dark paint can reach as high as 180 degrees in the sun. However, they are not subjected to any friction or abrasive action when this hot, so they expand with the substrate and cool off with no problem.


    So Let`s Heat Some Paint!

    One of the benefits of my job is I get to do cool things... seriously! I pulled a test paint panel into the garage, armed with some tools, to test the effect of purposely overheated paint.

    In order to over heat the paint I grabbed the powerful direct-drive FLEX PE Rotary Polisher, a closed-cell foam cutting pad, and the abrasive Menzerna FG400 compound. This is an aggressive combination, that when used properly, will produce amazing results... However, my goal was to use these products incorrectly to overheat the paint.



    I also grabbed the accurate Mircro-Tech Infrared Temp Gauge to measure heat.


    In order to measure the amount of paint removed during this process I used the trusty DeFlesko PosiTector to measure total thickness. It was 8.9 mils thick at the beginning.




    Bad technique on purpose!!! I set the FLEX PE to maximum speed: 2100RPM. In addition I polished a very small section, barely wider than the diameter of the pad, and used enough pressure to audibly slow the powerful 800-watt motor. Combined with an aggressive closed-cell foam and polish, this could be considered the worst possible technique!




    Let`s get started!

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEuz-ZbD7q4"]Burning Paint on Purpose[/ame]


    As you can see in the video, approximately 20 seconds after beginning to polish, the paint reached temperatures north of 240 degrees and started to smoke. It reached its maximum of 331 degrees just 10 seconds later, at which point is was heavily smoking. Below is some of the damage that has occurred.






    What is important to remember that this type of damage is extreme and was created in a small amount of time. Remember, heating the paint above 200 degrees while polishing, for any length of time, is likely to cause long-term damage that may takes months or years to show.


    Paint Swelling

    One major drawback of overheating paint is paint swelling. Paint swelling has confused more than one detailer into thinking that paint can be "reflowed". Modern paint is cured chemically and can NEVER be reflowed. Much like plastic it can only be melted.

    To illustrate the difference, remember that this paint originally measured 8.9 mils thick. Here is a thickness reading taken as the temperature cooled.





    As you can see the paint, when heated measured 9.0 mils, showing a gain of 1/10th. However as the temp continued to drop, the thickness did as well. Soon the paint settled into a thickness of 8.7 mils, and when checked in the same exact spot 8 hours later: 8.6 mils.




    Factors That Affect Temperature Change

    It is import to remember that friction creates heat. Increasing cutting power will increase heat. However, there are factors that we can control that not only limit the amount of heat created, but more importantly, control how quickly that heat is dissipated.


    • Paint Type - Different paints/clear coats, particularly those which are often described as "soft" can create a high temperature increase as they tend to grab at the pad more, increasing the friction.
    • Machine Type- The type of machine used to polish will have a huge effect on the amount of temperature increase. Rotary tools, by their nature, while increase the temperature the most. Dual-action polishers, because of the flexing and twisting of the pad, will tend to dissipate heat through the pad much faster.
    • Pad Type- Closed-cell foam pads will retain heat the most. Open-celled foam pads and wool pads tend to dissipate much more quickly because they allow the heat to flow out of the pad.
    • Technique- Using too much pressure, tilting the pad or moving the machine too slowly can increase the amount of heat created in an isolated area. All three of these were done to create the video above.
    • Substrate- The material under the paint can have a huge effect on how heat is dissipated across the surface. Metal body panels tend to radiate heat quickly, carrying heat away from the surface being polished. Composite materials such as rubber, plastic, fiberglass and carbon fiber tend to retain heat much longer, increasing the risk of overheating.

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Great article Todd

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Todd. It is just another example of you writing an article that is superior to anything else on the Internet today. Way to illustrate your point by doing, rather than just saying. You`re the man!

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Thanks for taking the time to document this devastating effect improper polishing can have on paint.
    Practice doesnt make perfect, the dedication to achieve perfection makes perfect. "Smack" (aka Mike)

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    You`ve explain this before and it never really hit me how much science there was behind this till.... I saw a few cars that even with multiple IPA wipe downs after being done start to finish with rotary looked flawless. 2 months later I see the same car and it would have the faintest buffer halo`s. Would drive me nuts! I`d go find the pics of the car and there was nothing there but then Ta Da! I felt like a hack.

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Another wonderful reference article! Thank you so much for sharing!

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrclean81 View Post
    Great article Todd
    Thank you, and FUN to write.. Anytime we can make materials smoke, we know we are having a good time

    Quote Originally Posted by radarryan View Post
    Todd. It is just another example of you writing an article that is superior to anything else on the Internet today. Way to illustrate your point by doing, rather than just saying. You`re the man!
    Thank you so much for the compliments

    Quote Originally Posted by Smack View Post
    Thanks for taking the time to document this devastating effect improper polishing can have on paint.
    Thank you for watching/reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmooth View Post
    You`ve explain this before and it never really hit me how much science there was behind this till.... I saw a few cars that even with multiple IPA wipe downs after being done start to finish with rotary looked flawless. 2 months later I see the same car and it would have the faintest buffer halo`s. Would drive me nuts! I`d go find the pics of the car and there was nothing there but then Ta Da! I felt like a hack.
    Thanks Joe! This rotary "die-back" happens or has happened to all of us. Just so many variables in paint that even when we do EVERYTHING in our power, sometimes cannot be avoided.

    Quote Originally Posted by spiralout462 View Post
    Another wonderful reference article! Thank you so much for sharing!
    You are welcome, thanks for the compliment

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Nice test!

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunky View Post
    Nice test!
    Thanks Al, it was fun to do!

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    While we work paint, our goal is to keep the paint as relatively cool as possible. Sure it takes longer than banging through a correction job. But swelling is a real issue that impacts the longterm results. -No thanks.
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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Wonderful ideasas usual.

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Quote Originally Posted by Woob View Post
    Wonderful ideasas usual.
    Thank you sir

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Would the swelling of the paint allow some polishes to fill in? I`m wondering because I have seen "perfect" paint look not so perfect after a few months and some washes.

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    Re: Paint Polishing 102: Heat!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Bunn View Post
    Would the swelling of the paint allow some polishes to fill in? I`m wondering because I have seen "perfect" paint look not so perfect after a few months and some washes.
    Perhaps, although I think that the expanded paint would cause the opposite effect.

 

 

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