Gonna try HD UNO v4...

**rzatch** · 04-11-2012, 12:16 AM

Mark DOI is used to measured the visual appearance of polished high-gloss surfaces. Orange peel causes diffusion which then lowers the DOI measurement. The statement a wax causes depth is miss leading some waxes darken paint more than others leading people to believe it has enhanced the depth. IMO.

Charles compounding can increase the DOI of an object depending on how dull the object is to begin with. DOI is used to measure gloss or reflection not depth. Thats why mirrors are measured with DOI.

**pwaug** · 04-11-2012, 06:34 AM

[QUOTE=C. Charles Hahn;430734]Definitely give his stuff a try; you won`t regret the purchase. I`ve been using some of it for a few months now and I`ve been really impressed overall.QUOTE]

Charles--How does the new UNO compare with V4? Does it have the ability to finish down well or do you really need HD Polish as a follow up?

**Wax2aMax** · 04-11-2012, 09:09 AM

[quote=ski2;430742]

Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn

Definitely give his stuff a try; you won`t regret the purchase. I`ve been using some of it for a few months now and I`ve been really impressed overall.QUOTE]

Charles--How does the new UNO compare with V4? Does it have the ability to finish down well or do you really need HD Polish as a follow up?

Good question. I find UNO4 (and 3) to finish down well...but I usually also use it to jewel the finish with a red HT or red UNO pad (the one with the stiff backing).

I believe the new HD finishing polish is for finicky paints mostly. Tough to beat 85RD for finishing.

**C. Charles Hahn** · 04-11-2012, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by rzatch

Charles compounding can increase the DOI of an object depending on how dull the object is to begin with. DOI is used to measure gloss or reflection not depth. Thats why mirrors are measured with DOI.

Yes, defect removal and compounding/polishing can improve DOI, but the only way to *maximize* it is to remove the texture from the surface, which compounding/polishing cannot do.

Originally Posted by ski2

Originally Posted by C. Charles Hahn

Definitely give his stuff a try; you won`t regret the purchase. I`ve been using some of it for a few months now and I`ve been really impressed overall.

Charles--How does the new UNO compare with V4? Does it have the ability to finish down well or do you really need HD Polish as a follow up?

The post you quoted was in reference to Bill`s statement about Garry Dean`s products; not about the new UNO. I do not have any of the new HD UNOv5 at this time.

**rzatch** · 04-11-2012, 12:45 PM

[QUOTE=C. Charles Hahn;430748]Yes, defect removal and compounding/polishing can improve DOI, but the only way to *maximize* it is to remove the texture from the surface, which compounding/polishing cannot do.QUOTE]

Same page

**pwaug** · 04-11-2012, 01:19 PM

[quote=Wax2aMax;430747]

Originally Posted by ski2

Good question. I find UNO4 (and 3) to finish down well...but I usually also use it to jewel the finish with a red HT or red UNO pad (the one with the stiff backing).

I believe the new HD finishing polish is for finicky paints mostly. Tough to beat 85RD for finishing.

Same here--UNO V4 finishes well even with an orange B&S pad although a few passes with a green or red B&S seems to make a difference for me after the orange.

**rzatch** · 04-11-2012, 07:29 PM

So are you guys using DA`s or rotarys with UNO

**rzatch** · 04-13-2012, 10:51 PM

I think I`m going with some Fixer instead. Seems to be more of what UNO was supposed to be.

**ZL1Mark** · 04-14-2012, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by rzatch

I think I`m going with some Fixer instead. Seems to be more of what UNO was supposed to be.

How can you say that when you`ve never tried UNO?

Unless I`m mistaken. From a very reliable source, UNO AC is a very good alternative to M105, and you can use it in direct sunlight on a hot panel. Plus, you can switch to a finishing pad with good results on most paints. Fixer utilizes diminishing abrasives. No thank you.

**Bunky** · 04-14-2012, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6

This is a completely new system, no longer one product that can do everything, but 2. Completely different chemical make-up.

I guess they could rename it DUO.

**rzatch** · 04-14-2012, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by 07 z-oh-6

How can you say that when you`ve never tried UNO?

Unless I`m mistaken. From a very reliable source, UNO AC is a very good alternative to M105, and you can use it in direct sunlight on a hot panel. Plus, you can switch to a finishing pad with good results on most paints. Fixer utilizes diminishing abrasives. No thank you.

Well you buy yours(whoops already did ) and I`ll buy mine and we`ll swap samples. Hows that? JK I wait your review as I know you are not all that easy to please.

**pwaug** · 04-14-2012, 07:01 AM

The following posts are from a pro detailer who uses UNO extensively and was involved in the pre-testing (but does not work for 3D) of UNO V5---

"Still the same (as V4), less is more philosophy, for both products. UNO can still do 3 in 1 duty. It also comes off easy. However, using non rotary polishers, on flat black paint you need a less aggressive product to eliminate the very tiny "pigtail" marks. Use UNO on a metallic black paint and UNO is the only product you will need.

Having said that, the new HD POLISH is an amazing product. I spent 5 days on a black Mustang and it was the best looking finish I have ever produced. Thanks to UNO, and POLISH.

Still the same 3 to 4 drops, but it depends on the pad you are using. Harder cutting pads, you use more. Soft foam, MF, wool, you will use less. Do you have a scratch? Put a good amount right on top and go at it to quickly level it. It all depends, but in general, do not over apply. Less product works better."