I appreciate the feedback guys!
CutMax and M101 I definitely want to try out in the future, I always avoided picking those up because they were more expensive. Sandro at Car Craft Auto Detailing made a great case for Griot`s Fast Correcting Cream on the DA polisher in terms of clarify and finish and wipeability compared to CutMax and 3D ACA 500 in his test video here which shows some awesome visuals with different paints and pads and polishers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnkccJ4olCU
Thanks Coatings, really appreciate that visual of the high spot for the Griot`s Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax! Would be interesting to see if that would be fully cleaned up with a quick touch up of Prep-All. Pretty crazy how it leaves a legitimate high spot on the paint, but your results after washing are mirroring the results of the gloss test, where the gloss isn`t normalizing after the wash as much, and instead required that Prep-All wipe to get those numbers to jump back up to the abrasive numbers.
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Prep-All will definitely cut into Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax and knock it down either partially or fully, so you would want to reapply Griot`s afterwards. Prep-All was the one spray prep in my test that was able to normalize those gloss readings back up after Griot`s had cured, so this is why I think it would be good for anyone tackling any heavier high spots as a potential quick prep to knock down those areas to remove the streaks, and then reapply afterwards.
Waxes and sealants that I test on paint that is this polished, they drop the gloss readings. The readings are usually bumped right back up to normal after the first wash, but Griot`s resists the ability to be leveled out after this wash. Only a Prep-All wipe was able to bring the gloss numbers back up across the board which is a destructive method.
Tremendous thread and a most interesting read.
Brian from Apex detail managed to achieve gloss readings of between 99 to 102 using TAC`s ̉ne Step Master. It would be an interesting exercise to see what level of gloss it is possible to achieve with this product over a base coat of Essence primer.
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I appreciate it Mac! TAC System appears to have some gloss producing gems in the lineup, eventually if they get the U.S. base up and running I might finally be able to grab Shinee Wax and others to run some tests with to see how well it fares on this specific panel.
The higher humidity in the garage is proving to have an impact in the gloss testing, mainly with the calibration tile over these warmer months here in Florida. This is one of the main reasons for the lack of updates in the thread. The issue with humidity is I can calibrate the meter to the gloss tile after cleaning, pick the meter up to run measurements on the panel, come back to the calibration tile and no longer be able to match that calibrated baseline number. The tile is able to fog over very slightly just from the humidity after lifting it the meter up, which skews the numbers. Likely the same fogging could also be occurring on the actual lenses of the meter itself to some degree.
My Poorboy`s Black Hole Glaze expired on me, it`s able to mix well during shaking but applying it to the paint I can see it`s not going on as it used to when it was fresh. Even though it`s thick and not runny in the bottle, it`s a bit watery on application and so although the short term results were promising, the expiration of the glaze and the inconsistency of the humidity put the gloss testing on the back burner and I haven`t replaced the glaze with a fresh bottle yet.
Loach
Florida may seem to have some drawbacks re the weather but you need to live in Ireland to realise just how lucky you are. Our summers last maybe 6 weeks and it becomes quite a talking point if we see 22C / 70F!
Thanks for the prompt reply. I will look forward with interest to any future review by you on TAC Systems One Step Master.
Your thread was an absolute revelation.
TheMac
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since a mirror has a very high gloss what are the numbers of a mirror
We`re definitely lucky down here in Florida, I`ll take this extreme heat and the humidity over the frigid winters from up north any day!
I picked up my gallon of Black Hole about 5 years ago from Autopia. I`ve got the rest of the gallon up north and had a few bottles that I pulled from that brought down south to me, I`ll have to check to see how the rest of the gallon is doing when I get back up there.
The bathroom mirror I just measured at the 20° angle was reading at 1,941GU. At the 60° angle it reads 632GU. The higher the gloss of the substrate that you`re measuring, you want to switch to using the 20° angle on the meter, the lower the gloss you want to switch to the 85° angle. And for most paint testing around 80-110GU I`ll measure at the 60° angle.
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There`s a name we haven`t seen in a while! Glad to see you post - Hope you`ve been well!
Heck, you even got your own thread of us wondering about ya over on AG: https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ard-swetm.html
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