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    Re: Comprehensive Gloss Measurement Thread - WaxMode Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Coatings=crack View Post
    Yeah i bought the 3-1 at Griots...[but be forewarned that]...

    Lastly i did have some problems with streaking due to improper lighting and even left a high spot that would not remove a day later with any wash, rinseless or even applying more product..
    Thanks for the warning!

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    Re: Comprehensive Gloss Measurement Thread - WaxMode Testing

    I appreciate the feedback guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
    Loach:
    While this thread is about Last-Step Products and Waxes in particular and their objective gloss "value" as measured by a calibrated gloss meter, my question about compounds is not so much the "gloss" they produce, but rather which one(s) are easiest to work with and produce the most effective correction major paint flaws. Unfortunately, many compounds are designed to refine freshly painted vehicles that have been wet-sanded and remove the appropriate coarseness or grit of the "abrasive paper" sanding marks used to refine the paint. Most detailers will never face that paint finish scenario, unless they are fixing (very) bad auto body jobs on repaired vehicles, which apparently, some detailers are making a decent living at doing.
    ANYWAY, long story short, correcting major paint surface damage, like environmental etching, or scratches is difficult enough. I would think that there are some compounds that "work" better than most at this and are easier to work without causing more "problems" than they are trying to fix. Sonax makes CutMax compound that could offer similar results to the above-mentioned correction objectives as their Perfect Finish you highly like, BUT I make this assumed evaluation because I have never used it.
    CutMax and M101 I definitely want to try out in the future, I always avoided picking those up because they were more expensive. Sandro at Car Craft Auto Detailing made a great case for Griot`s Fast Correcting Cream on the DA polisher in terms of clarify and finish and wipeability compared to CutMax and 3D ACA 500 in his test video here which shows some awesome visuals with different paints and pads and polishers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnkccJ4olCU


    Quote Originally Posted by Coatings=crack View Post
    Yeah i bought the 3-1 at Griots just cuz i got a good price and thought i would try it and give it away.

    Well i was impressed with how substantial it seem to be and the gloss and reflectiveness on my hood. In griots video the say it’s a 6 months and that they truly vetted it and its not your typical 6month sealant that lasts 3.

    Lastly i did have some problems with streaking due to improper lighting and even left a high spot that would not remove a day later with any wash, rinseless or even applying more product


    Here are the gloss reflective shots of the hood. Hood is not coated with CQuK3 like rest to test products


    Thos reflection of my black hood on a January over cast day.


    It did degrade in about 2 months but it was getting Fenylab pure rinseless or Bilt Hamber Auto Foam weekly.

    I believe both are Alkaline and degrade sealants but was testing both this and Seal and shine.

    Great topper too. It is on my short list of repeat buys.
    Thanks Coatings, really appreciate that visual of the high spot for the Griot`s Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax! Would be interesting to see if that would be fully cleaned up with a quick touch up of Prep-All. Pretty crazy how it leaves a legitimate high spot on the paint, but your results after washing are mirroring the results of the gloss test, where the gloss isn`t normalizing after the wash as much, and instead required that Prep-All wipe to get those numbers to jump back up to the abrasive numbers.
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    Re: Comprehensive Gloss Measurement Thread - WaxMode Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Loach View Post
    I appreciate the feedback guys

    Thanks Coatings, really appreciate that visual of the high spot for the Griot`s Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax! Would be interesting to see if that would be fully cleaned up with a quick touch up of Prep-All. Pretty crazy how it leaves a legitimate high spot on the paint, but your results after washing are mirroring the results of the gloss test, where the gloss isn`t normalizing after the wash as much, and instead required that Prep-All wipe to get those numbers to jump back up to the abrasive numbers.
    So you are wiping with preps all after aplication and it is glossier? Do you think that affects durability?


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    Re: Comprehensive Gloss Measurement Thread - WaxMode Testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Coatings=crack View Post
    So you are wiping with preps all after aplication and it is glossier? Do you think that affects durability?
    Prep-All will definitely cut into Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax and knock it down either partially or fully, so you would want to reapply Griot`s afterwards. Prep-All was the one spray prep in my test that was able to normalize those gloss readings back up after Griot`s had cured, so this is why I think it would be good for anyone tackling any heavier high spots as a potential quick prep to knock down those areas to remove the streaks, and then reapply afterwards.

    Waxes and sealants that I test on paint that is this polished, they drop the gloss readings. The readings are usually bumped right back up to normal after the first wash, but Griot`s resists the ability to be leveled out after this wash. Only a Prep-All wipe was able to bring the gloss numbers back up across the board which is a destructive method.

 

 
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