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    Re: Any one use Scholls S20 Black ??

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    Re: Any one use Scholls S20 Black ??

    Finally tried S20 today. Not sure how I feel about it. Leaves a good finish with nice gloss, easy to wipe off and does a pretty good job for a one step. It just dusts too much for my liking.

    The dusting reminded me of what I experienced with HD Polish. Which I disliked so much that I gave HD Polish away.
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    Re: Any one use Scholls S20 Black ??

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Finally tried S20 today. Not sure how I feel about it. Leaves a good finish with nice gloss, easy to wipe off and does a pretty good job for a one step. It just dusts too much for my liking.

    The dusting reminded me of what I experienced with HD Polish. Which I disliked so much that I gave HD Polish away.
    The S20 Black took a while for me to figure out (like most things it seems)...i was using with a Flex 3401 on one of their honey spider pads and initially went at it as `normal`, speed 5, 3 pea sized drops and it wasn`t anything special it seemed.

    Then went down to 4 unusually small drops at speed 4 and 4 passes was the sweet spot.

    They say it`s some kinda `Rapidly diminishing abrasive technology` so I just condensed everything, less product, less speed, less passes, less pressure and it seemed to come alive nicely. I guess many use it on navy spider pads to great effect as well.

    Because I`m lazy, the condensed process appeals to me as opposed to a Menzerna 2400 which takes me longer to work completely thru a cycle.

    It finished out very nicely but since I was using on my own black Honda and wasn`t in a hurry, I finished with S40 on a crimson Hydrotech to squeak a bit more out of the process and that worked far better for that last little bit of than Menz 3800 ever did.

    I really like the Scholls stuff now but there were some `This ain`t nothing special` moments along the way initially.

    Just a shame the Scholl spider pads are so expensive and the fact that idiots apparently designed the smaller Scholl bottles...hard to dispense the very small drops required.
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    Re: Any one use Scholls S20 Black ??

    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    The S20 Black took a while for me to figure out (like most things it seems)...i was using with a Flex 3401 on one of their honey spider pads and initially went at it as `normal`, speed 5, 3 pea sized drops and it wasn`t anything special it seemed.

    Then went down to 4 unusually small drops at speed 4 and 4 passes was the sweet spot.

    They say it`s some kinda `Rapidly diminishing abrasive technology` so I just condensed everything, less product, less speed, less passes, less pressure and it seemed to come alive nicely. I guess many use it on navy spider pads to great effect as well.

    Because I`m lazy, the condensed process appeals to me as opposed to a Menzerna 2400 which takes me longer to work completely thru a cycle.

    It finished out very nicely but since I was using on my own black Honda and wasn`t in a hurry, I finished with S40 on a crimson Hydrotech to squeak a bit more out of the process and that worked far better for that last little bit of than Menz 3800 ever did.

    I really like the Scholls stuff now but there were some `This ain`t nothing special` moments along the way initially.

    Just a shame the Scholl spider pads are so expensive and the fact that idiots apparently designed the smaller Scholl bottles...hard to dispense the very small drops required.
    As I posted over on AGO in another thread, I don`t intend to buy the spider pads. Already have enough pads as it is.

    The dusting reminds me of what I got with HD Polish which I disliked. It`s the reason I gave HD Polish away.

    Here is what I posted there as well.

    I used it with brand new pads and pads I previously used a couple weeks ago that have been cleaned. Dusted with both options. Primed with 4 pea sized drops and then 2-3 drops depending on the panel size. Didn`t use a pad conditioner or water on it either. Used it with the blue LC HDO pads (previously used) and even the Megs cutting disks (new) with the same outcome.

    I went a few panels before I put is aside and went with Rupes Keramik and the Rupes yellow pad which is working better at the moment. This paint is weird and I hate working on it and Keramik is the only thing that works on it. I will try it again but not on this car I am currently working on.

    Speed 4 on the Rupes 15 MKII and even on the Duetto at 4.5. Humidity was a bit high so I am hoping that is the cause.

    The paint is finicky on this one for sure. It is actually a repaint. It`s my uncles black vette.

    I had the same issue the first time and Rupers Keramik was the savior. I took the opportunity to try out S20 to see what everyone was raving about but I put that aside. Didn`t cut as well as Rupes keramik and again the dusting. I was curious so I tried the Sonax Cut & Finish on a cutting pad and that worked better than S20. I was just messing around with some other polishes out of curiosity.

    So for now I will be putting S20 aside as Rupes Keramik is the savior once again for this particular paint. At this particular moment after a few panels I am not that impressed with S20. Good thing I only bought the 16 oz bottle and I got it on discount.

    Will I reach for it again? Sure

    Will it be my go to one step? At the moment no it will not
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    Re: Any one use Scholls S20 Black ??

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Will I reach for it again? Sure

    Will it be my go to one step? At the moment no it will not
    I think the S20 works best on softer paint. Worked wonderfully on new black Honda paint but was more `meh` on older, black Ford paint. I don`t think of it as a universal product but really enjoy it on things it does work on.

    Funny though...recently gave HD Polish+ a shot for the first time and really like it. Not much cut, but for a second step after a well finishing compound, I find it fun to use and not too much trouble.

    Kinda neat how different things give different impressions to different folks...interesting.

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    Re: Any one use Scholls S20 Black ??

    You guys gotta try S40 with Rupes white pads, as a final polish, work it a few passes.
    Fantastic gloss level, and oohh so easy to work with, my ultimate fav. finish polish!
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    Re: Any one use Scholls S20 Black ??

    Quote Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1 View Post
    I think the S20 works best on softer paint. Worked wonderfully on new black Honda paint but was more `meh` on older, black Ford paint. I don`t think of it as a universal product but really enjoy it on things it does work on.

    Funny though...recently gave HD Polish+ a shot for the first time and really like it. Not much cut, but for a second step after a well finishing compound, I find it fun to use and not too much trouble.

    Kinda neat how different things give different impressions to different folks...interesting.
    I agree with everything you said. great post

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    Re: Any one use Scholls S20 Black ??

    I will try again but not on this particular paint. Just doesn`t work for it.
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