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    Re: My experience with M105

    M105/M205 used to be the 1-2 punch for polishing paint.

    There are a lot if issues with M105. work time, flashing/drying etc.
    ...and as some have said the M105, megs mf discs and 3401 combo.

    The Megs mf discs are designed to go "no faster that 4800 opm"

    My first suggestion is to switch away from M105.
    If you mist M105 with water to revitalize, prepare to clean nasty splatter!

    Have you tried D300? It has less cut than M105 but it`s a LOT friendlier.

    For heavily swirled paint I might suggest M101 with a Carpro Flash pad.
    Same cut as M105 but again a LOT friendlier and it finishes out nice too!

    NOTE: Since I switched to M101 I`ve never picked up the bottle of M105.
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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    M105/M205 used to be the 1-2 punch for polishing paint.


    Have you tried D300? It has less cut than M105 but it`s a LOT friendlier.
    Yup. 105/205 was my go-to until I ran into the hard clear of PPG on a respray.

    I tried out D300 just this last weekend. I was able to do MUCH more with D300 on Megs MF Cut disc with the GG6 on speed 4, than I did with M105 on orange Hex Logic pad with the PC on speed 5. It was like 1 pass can do more than 2-2.5 passes of the old setup.

    And OHMYGAWD the D300 wipe off is SOOOOO much easier. And the smell...so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustJesus View Post
    And OHMYGAWD the D300 wipe off is SOOOOO much easier. And the smell...so good.
    D300 is cinnamon and D301 is Blueberry! I`m not sure about D302...maybe vanilla?

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    Re: My experience with M105

    Try D300 on the new thin Meguiar`s cutting pad. It`s a very good combo.
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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    D300 is cinnamon and D301 is Blueberry! I`m not sure about D302...maybe vanilla?
    if the blueberry is close to blueberry, the way cinnamon is cinnamony, then count me in for a bottle!!! LOVE blueberry muffins.
    Hmm. Vanilla? I like vanilla. That would be interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    Try D300 on the new thin Meguiar`s cutting pad. It`s a very good combo.
    You mean the Xtra Cut Discs? I was thinking about those.

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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by JustJesus View Post
    You mean the Xtra Cut Discs? I was thinking about those.
    I meant the new thin foam burgundy cutting pad. That combo works pretty well. If I need more bite I will go to M101 on the foam pad or D300 and the microfiber cutting pad. I no longer own M105.


    I`ll take a whiff of D302 when I get home tonight and let you know the scent.
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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    I meant the new thin foam burgundy cutting pad. That combo works pretty well. If I need more bite I will go to M101 on the foam pad or D300 and the microfiber cutting pad. I no longer own M105.


    I`ll take a whiff of D302 when I get home tonight and let you know the scent.
    OHHHHH, I forgot about those. Yeah, I think I`ll be getting some of those pads soon.

    Thanks for the tip and for taking a whiff tonight!!

    EDIT: HOLY SMOKES. when did the HexLogic pads double in price?!?!?!?! I`m DEFINITELY picking up the Megs Foam pads, sooner rather than later!

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    Re: My experience with M105

    With FG400, HD Cut, Rupes Zephir, I find absolutely no need for M105. M105 is way too finicky. If you would like to stay within the Meguiars line, use M100, M101, or D300

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    Re: My experience with M105

    I use the Flex 3401 on most cars. Except I use The m85 aka Diamond Cut and the Meguiar`s thin red cutting DA pad as well. It works wonderfully. But yes keep in mind that the Flex is a forced rotation so it`s going to get warm like a regular Orbital. However I love that thing because it saves me a step . I don`t like to get the paint too hot either. My rule of thumb is I should be able to lay my hand comfortably on the paint without it burning. If it`s too warm to touch then I set it aside for a bit and come back to that section later. And as previously stated, I use the air to clean/fluff the pad before and after I am done with it. However I have not noticed my pad getting as hot as you described. I tend to only use enough compound to not leave any film left over anyway. The result is a little bit of compound dust that easily rinses away and a scratch-free, sexy, shiny, and smooth finish. I wish I had pictures to show what I`m referring to but any photo shoots I`ve done have been for my boss to post to his page. But finding that perfect balance between results and compound takes a bit of time. And with a new compound I never seem to get it right at first. Takes a few jobs to find that balance again. Keep using it and you`ll get the hang of the new product. As long as you`re doing things carefully and taking your time your two main concerns are either using too much and having to take the time to clean it all up, or using too little and having to take it a little further to take the scratches out again. This is of course based on my own personal experience.

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    Re: My experience with M105

    D302 = Banana. Same scent as M26.
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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by JustJesus View Post
    You mean the Xtra Cut Discs? I was thinking about those.
    Meguiars new DA foam polishing pads are thinner.

    Here’s the deal…
    Thick, large wet pads rotate even worse than thick, large dry pads. And the reason this is a problem is because if the pad is not rotating…. You are not removing any defects. So pad rotation is key to successful compounding and polishing and even when using a one-step cleaner/wax or AIO.

    By reducing the thickness of the buffing pad you increase the ability for these types of dual action polishers to maintain pad rotation when wet or dry.
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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by The Guz View Post
    D302 = Banana. Same scent as M26.
    SWEET! But M7 smells more like bananas than M26.

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    Meguiars new DA foam polishing pads are thinner.
    Thanks Merlin!

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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by JustJesus View Post
    You mean the Xtra Cut Discs? I was thinking about those.
    I use the Meguiars DMX5 DA Microfiber Xtra Cut 5" Disc, to do heavy removal.



    Be careful these suckers will cut!
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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    I use the Meguiars DMX5 DA Microfiber Xtra Cut 5" Disc, to do heavy removal.

    Be careful these suckers will cut!
    I`ll save those for another time then!!!

    I did order the Megs thin foam pads earlier today

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    Re: My experience with M105

    Quote Originally Posted by JustJesus View Post
    I did order the Megs thin foam pads earlier today
    Let us know your thoughts when you use them.

    What polish, machine, machine speed, size pads etc.?

 

 
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